Oil filter housing

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Oil filter housing

Postby Mgcjag » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:29 pm

Hi All.....hope you can help.....1971 Daimler Sovereign 4.2..... currently have the standard large style oil filter......would like to convert to a spin on style.....what is the simplest solution.....many thanks... Steve
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby Tintin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Hi Mgcjag

Previous owner had one of these fitted to mine:- https://flexolite.co.uk/cat.asp?cID=4&p ... R_ADAPTORS and it is fine - no complaints at all.

Good luck.

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby Mgcjag » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:19 pm

Hi Robbie....thanks for the reply.....was looking at similar adaptors from SNG......does yours just have the aluminium adaptor....or does the housing also need to be changed.....my filter is horizontal.....is yours as in the link.vertical...Steve
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby Tintin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:05 pm

Hi Steve. Mine is horizontal - the illustration shows vertical but is generic. I think you would struggle to fit a vertical filter and clear the steering rack. The alloy adaptor fits directly against the filter head (which is retained) using a hollow bolt which provides the male thread for the new spin on filter female thread. It is a very simple job to fit.

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby Mgcjag » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:21 pm

Thanks Robbie...thats exactly what i want...horizontal as origin.....and not haveing to change houseing is a bonus...cheers.. Steve
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:36 pm

Hi
I have a series 2 Jaguar 4.2 manufactured in may 1974 and that has the large cannister housing the oil filter as on a series 1, does anyone know if the flexolite conversion would fit the model as is later than the ones being spoken about here and if so is it straightforward as oil changes are a pain compared to my 1989 sovereign with it`s spin on-off system, any advice would be appreciated, Regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby Mgcjag » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:00 pm

Hi Paul.....i decided to use the SNG filter.......filter sits horizontal...give them a call so they can match the unit to your model....Steve
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:03 pm

Hi Steve,I did look on the SNG site and found they did some models but not the model I have.I rang David Manners Group yesterday who I also get parts from when required and they do not do one, so yes I will phone SNG and see how we get on, thanks for that.I have another issue at the moment, on starting the car today I reversed it to the edge of the drive an it stopped, refused to start again, so I done the usual checks we would do with these vehicles and I couldn`t find anything wrong, so I called the AA homestart and he checked all the electrics and there is power and fuel to the engine but he couldn`t rectify the issue, saying it could possibly be the coil. So I have a car at the moment that doesn`t work and the coil is in such a tight area I do not think I could do it myself.The problem is we have so few if any people in my area who work on these vehicles and apart from plugs,ignition leads and general run of the mill things that I do myself ,when something else beyond the basics it becomes a problem.I remember taking it to the Jaguar specialist in Peterborough and was told we don`t work on the old models,even though on occasions magazines have done an issue on this garage and it clearly showed a series 2 in the workshop that was a waste of time.I ended up taking it to a classic car dealer near to the Norfolk coast, I can`t say I was particularly impressed with them an wouldn`t return.So at this moment I am not sure where to take the car as it would have to be transported and my late father had it new in 1974 so it`s not only sentimental but the condition is first class( sees no rain an doesn`t know what winter is ) so would need to be someone who knows their stuff and have respect for the car for what it is,Regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby RichardSEL » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:19 am

Recently had a coil issue on a series 1 -- it was the ballast resistor that had gone intermittent: start, die, start, die.
I've had coil issues with all the Jags I've had and so would go to coil first.

It doesn't have to be in place to check that item by substitution, just the three leads swapped -- and willingness to gamble the £35 or so on a new one.
I'd be changing it out anyway -- the secondary windings do go short between them over time leading to reduced HT
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:23 pm

Hi RichardSEL, yes I will be on the phone to SNG BARRATT first thing tomorrow to get one ordered as I want to get the one that fits this model with the ballast resistor as a fellow enthusiast said to me one time before when car misbehaved that their are different coils for these models.I have a new ballast resistor, distributor cap and rotar arm and on friday morning had a set of ignition leads from Barratts arrive trying to cover every possibility and I have a new Lucas sports coil bought a couple years ago but it appears not to be the correct one.So I will speak again to the people who can supply most of what we need and then will be a case of ilimination.The car has always been reliable up to last year and a broken live feed cable to the electronic ignition, replaced by an older AA man who wasn`t in so much of a hurry and away we went, until the first start up of the year and we are where we are. I think the main problem is not enough use, only done 1000 miles in 5 years, so need to get it sorted and get it on the road now the sun has started to shine, thanks for your advice, much appreciated, regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:05 pm

Hi RichardSEL, I am still trying to get this beast to fire, I connected the new ballast resistor, a new coil compatable with the ballast resistor, new spark plugs, new ignition leads etc and fully charged battery, the engine will spin but just will not fire up.You can hear the fuel pumps click then you can smell the fuel while your trying to start it so fuel is where it needs to be.I am just at a loose end where to look next, and on the dash while cranking the engine it just shows the words ignition, so it still does appear to be electrical.I am slowly loosing the will to live over this, it never behaves like this ,only as I said before last summer we had a break in the live feed to the electronic ignition,which was found and replaced by Mr AA man, an ran well the rest of the year.But this has me foxed.Any ideas or advice , I would be grateful in case I have missed something obvious and not realised.And If I have to succome to defeat, does anybody know of anyone in the Wisbech , Cambs area who has worked on these vehicles ( 1974 XJ6 4.2 ) and can come recommended as we know these vehicles are complex creatures at times, Regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby PPV » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:52 am

Hi, not sure if it is of help but a few years ago a friend used the garage here: https://www.tevershamclassics.co.uk/ for work on his old car and they were very helpful. Can't vouch for them myself as never had anything to do with them. May be of use but do not know how close you are to them.
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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:54 am

Hi
I don`t appear to have a spark, even though new plugs are fitted,can anyone tell me if a suppressor is fitted to the back of the ballist resistor as mine has what looks like one, round and blue in colour and wire is connected to another and they both go to the coil( it may even have no bearing on the issue) , can`t see how it`s fixed as I can`t see a bracket on the back of the ballist resistor I have purchased to fit anything to it. I have power to the ballist resistor but not it seems to the coil on testing, even after rigging up a new one without removal of the old one, so I think we are still looking at the wiring as it does seem quite brittle, and these engines certainly produce some heat when they run.I will be checking all the electrics again this morning for the umpteenth time, just in case I have missed something, thanks for peoples input.I`m determined to resolve the issue and get it running even after I have called it every expletive going, and sporting the odd plaster here and there as others know there is little space to work in this area where the coil etc is housed,Regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby supersonic62 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:03 pm

Hi folks, just thought I would give an update on the starting issue I had with the series 2 . I got it towed to the usual garage I use for the modern vehicles if we have an issue just hoping they may be able to do something with the car( they have never worked on it as I haven`t had a problem that`s not been fairly simple to rectify)They changed all the following which I supplied that came from SNG Barratt or David manners Group, coil, ballast resistor (plugs and ignition leads I had changed) distributor cap, rotar arm and it still refused to start.They traced the issue to the illuminition ignition system.So I ordered a new one and they fitted it and we are running and we have her home, thank goodness.I am now waiting for a low pressure power steering hose to be delivered which has split and it will return to be fitted and hopefully we will be ready for the season ahead, although it will miss Drive it Day on the 28th April were up and running that`s the main thing, Regards Paul

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Re: Oil filter housing

Postby RichardSEL » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:46 pm

Well done on your perseverence :!: I too have the Luminition system on my series 1, 4.2L lump. But had an awful fault that defeated two "standard" motor mechanics -- start, die, start, die... By the time I'd bought the car the carbs had been seriously mis-adjusted in some previous owner's attemps to fix. Luminition system gives a switched LT.

Eventually, a change of coil fixed as the internal ballast resistor had gone intermittent. It was breaking down once the HT had been generated inside the coil due to faulty internal insulation and faulty windings. Changing coil to one without ballast resistor would work but it's better to get a "proper" equivalent which is what my shop did supply.
Luminition ECU with new HT coil2.JPG
Luminition ECU with new (temporary) coil
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