Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:25 am

still waiting for the refurb kit from America , expecting it tomorrow


so while i was bored , i refurbished the torque converter ,
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3377 by MyPix

as far as i know, the internals are fine and will get a good flush off the car, but the outside has only got to smell moisture and rusts making it look bad, so i painted it like the Americans do !


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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:27 pm

so , the kit has arrived, and i even bought a second kit on ebay because it was very cheap......

i have also treated myself to some new workshop equipment including a bush and bearing drift set , and a full set of digital callipers and dial gauges and magnetic stand
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3462 by MyPix

new copper alloy bush and gearbox end extension seal bashed home, lol , that bit can now be put to one side,
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measuring the original end float of the pump in the box,i could tell by the feel it was way too much , but i needed to know how much so i can get the correct shims to bring it back to tolerance , its suppose to be between 15 and 30 thou , 0.72mm max( 30 thou )
this is setup and zero'd prior to measuring, the electro magnetic base makes everything steady
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3463 by MyPix

as you can see , its way out, but is a starting point , all new components should bring it back a little, and then a shim will bing it to tolerance
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and for those still thinking in the stone age........ :P ( that should read a max of 0.030 , not 0.0415 :shock: )
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3465 by MyPix

with the end float measured , i could proceed with stripping out the internals, this means removing the pump on the front, its in there tight but Jaguar kindly threaded two of the bolt holes to a assist, a puller would work but i only had metric threads, so i bashed it with a nylon hammer until it gave up , and then pulled it over the inner drive shaft ,
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i then removed as per my instruction book ( another thing i had to buy ) all the internal clutches and drive section, this is them all on the rolling trolly ( christmas present ) ready for inspection , cleaning and then rebuild before installing back in the case
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3467 by MyPix

and thats it, a fully stripped case ready for jet washing and rebuilding
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a quick inspection of the friction material showed definite burning as a dark brown/black ring on the dark red friction surface, i will take a pic , but its too late now


thanks for hanging in there , but i can't just say i took it to bits and put it back together , lol

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dont worry , i won't let the bastards bring me down :evil:
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby J44EAG » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:59 pm

Serious Big Boys stuff there Vince.

Nice tool sets. No mucking about with that lot.

Watching closely with interest.

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby davidr » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:57 pm

Vince - impressive stuff. I don't mind having a go but bloody hell!
Also jealous of the drift set. Where did you get it?
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:37 pm

so , today i degreased and then jet washed the transmission case, and then used the air line to blow out the water from all the nooks and crannies . the case can look like its still dirty , but that is silver paint over cast aluminium thats all.
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3473 by MyPix

next is to drive out the rear case bushing using a hardened steel punch being careful not to score the case ,
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3470 by MyPix

removed bushing
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3471 by MyPix

new bushing drifted in with my set and using a little thread lock to set the bushing in the case , as they can spin out causing issues , excess thread lock was then wiped away.
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3472 by MyPix

next is the kick down connector , cleaned up and a new seal with a little petroleum jelly to aid installation , its popped into the case , old seal is next to it , which was hard....
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installed , simple push fit,
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3480 by MyPix

next is the manual shift case seal , its shown on another set of drifts for smaller items, Image
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set into case
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3477 by MyPix

then the park brake pawl , just cleaned up , spring fitted and connecting rod and lever fitted , along with the manual gear selector cam
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selector cam
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all in situ
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thats it for this weekend as the F1 GP is on soon


oh , i did say i would show you what a burned clutch looked like
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:57 pm

so, its sunday , the F1 GP is over, and i got bored, lol

so i decided to refurbish the final drive section of the box, this is the output shaft planet and sun gearing stripped down
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3512 by MyPix

old bushing removed, and new one installed
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3513 by MyPix

not very complicated , so with new bushings and new o-rings installed,and a new silencer ring , along with new torrington bearings lubricated its popped back together ready for the next part
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planet gear housing bushing removed and new one fitted with some lock tight, and then a new sprag one way roller fitted ( can be seen in next picture )
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then , with the rear band soaked in ATF and fitted into the case, the whole final drive section is dropped into the case with the middle sun gear fitted , ready for the centre support , this is in bits on the bench ready for rebuild in the next instalment , lol
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby J44EAG » Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:07 am

This would test my confidence, Vince.

I raise me top hat to you.

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:34 pm

so , the next instalment

the central support refurbishment, this is a drum with a spring valve inside and a large bushing in the centrall shaft , new seals to the piston , new torrington bearings, new bushings and all put back together with a ' brass ' thrust washer rather than an original plastic one,
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3531 by MyPix

up the other way showing the four slip seals, the piston is mounted under the spring retainer , , the new bushing was pushed in with my 12 tonne press, as its about 100mm long,
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3534 by MyPix

then this whole unit is dropped into the case making sure its seated correctly and the oil supply holes are in the right place and the chamfered retaining ring is snapped in making sure its the right way up
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3535 by MyPix

then the first of the steel clutch sections is dropped in,
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followed by a friction plate and then a steel and friction plate etc , and then finally the thick retainer followed by a snap ring
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3539 by MyPix

i have upgraded from a three clutch to four clutch system for a more positive gear change , and a quicker change , friction material soaking in ATF before being installed
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and finally all stacked up and held in with a snap ring,
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby J44EAG » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:43 pm

Superb work, Vince.

Wonderful to see what is inside one of these units and to watch it being built back up.

Keep at it.

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:47 pm

Interlude


I'm on holiday
Lol
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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:27 pm

right. onto business ,

the next step was to re-bush the central drive , and install it into the central support ,
central shaft,
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new bushes installed ,
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installed into the into the central carrier with the clutch pack already installed
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fully installed and located in the main sun gear lower in the box along with the front band
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next was to disassemble the intermediate clutch ,
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i had to think of a way to compress the valve springs to remove the cir clip retaining the collar ,
so i cut up an old welding wire spool that is made of heavy duty abs , allowing me to access the clip while compressed
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the component parts of the clutch ,
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removing the valve from the drum , showing the seal
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3928 by MyPix

then it was a full clean , install new seals all round and build back up ,
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and installed in the case
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onto the front drum , pretty much the same as the intermediate drum in process, but this has the main drive shaft installed
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retaining ring removed
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and disassembled for cleaning and new seals
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new seal installed
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and all put back together and dropped into the case, final thing was the pump , as i was very messy , and concentrating, i forgot to take any pictures, lol, but the pump is the disc shaped item in this picture
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remove all the front bolts, and separate, inspect for condition, and replace internal seals, while assuring correct alignment when putting back together , and then drop into the case, you then have to check the end float, and remove for adjustment if required using the pre made shims in the pack

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby J44EAG » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:41 pm

Superb work, Vince.

Ingenious reuse of the welding wire drum. You must have been watching Blue Peter!

You can`t be far off finished now.

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:31 pm

guess what :?:

i actually have a Blue Peter badge :mrgreen:


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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:35 pm

right ,

with all the spiny things shoved into the case, its time for the valve block , the bit that sits over the filter when looking at it in the car, the valve block is the brains of the system , and controls the pressures and flows of the fluid within the case, there are several different types , Jaguar used the manual select first and second gear and full auto , but there were safety features to stop the box from being damaged, so even if you selected first , the box would change up if IT felt it needed to , these can be over ridden by altering the valve block setup with modifications and different valve block paper gasket sets ,

i have stuck with a stock setup , well almost , as i have an adjustable modulator , and removed the accumulator assist spring within the valve block for this function , and also some of the fluid check balls have been omitted ,

this is the valve block with its component parts removed ready for cleaning
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this is the valve block with all the parts refitted from the previous picture, its a simple clean and check , lubricate and reassemble task , you can just see the pistons within the block in place
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next is the accumulator piston for the front band , with the adjustable vacuum modulator you can omit the spring, this makes for a slightly crisper shift , these are the component, a new teflon seal was fitted prod to fitting
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4002 by MyPix

this picture shows where the spring should go , i did not fit this spring, it is a widely accepted modification to improve response
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then its the fluid check balls , these are simple ball bearings of a certain size, six are normally fitted for ' comfort ' two are the minimum required for race shifting at full pressures, i opted for five check balls in the locations shown
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next is to offer up the gasket set and spacer plate, along with the detent solenoid which is for the kick down function , this was all placed on the case and held in place while the detent solenoid was tightened down
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4005 by MyPix

i then removed the bolts that are protruding and offered up the valve block while locating the two top oil flow pipes to the case, and the manual select valve onto the manual shifter cam with the spring retainer in place
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4010 by MyPix

next is the oil pickup tube, its common practice to install this tube with two O rings fitted to ensure correct pickup , belt n braces and all that.......
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and then its the filter
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i then temporarily fitted the sump pan using a lesser cork gasket , i plan to paint the case and fit a nice chrome ' finned ' sump , but the original one will stop things getting damaged for now

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Re: Its official , my gearbox is stuffed ,

Postby Brakebuster » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:48 pm

with the work bench cleared and cleaned ( a bit ) it was time to check the end float of the rebuilt box

this time i sat the whole box on the bench resting on the pan , and set the dial gauge on the bench its self
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4020 by MyPix

i chose a new shim to reduce the overall play i had to start with before the stripdown as mentioned in the first post, but it was not however enough , i then chose another shim, which was too much , in fact there was no movement at all , lol

the kit supplies you with eight shims of differing thickness just for this task , i finally chose the correct shim , the thing is replacing the shim means removing the pump from the case each time, then tightening it down each time to check the end flood

but i eventually ended up with this
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4014 by MyPix

tolerance is between 15 and 30 thou , as you can see , i got it to 16.5 thou , so not bad for a home build i think , lol

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