i have been refurbishing my brakes of late as i have a fault light, i found the high pressure hose from the ABS pump had developed blisters under pressure, so i bought a new pipe from Jaguar ( £60 ) and fitted it , then proceeded to bleed the brakes as required for the ABS system
I have however still got my ABS fault light on, and the brake warning light as well when the pedal is pushed, the pump also activates at the same time
this all indicates that the Nitrogen filled accumulator sphere has failed/depressurised and i need a replacement
any idea's where to get a reasonably priced one ?
i do know that Jaguar use a German company ( Lemforder ) for the part , and that it is used in several other cars other than Jaguar ,
just got to track own a supplier of them
and ACDelco also make/supply them , part number 25528382
but i think i'm looking at £100 at the cheapest , as i dont want to buy ' used '
BB
ABS accumulator sphere required
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Brakebuster
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Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
BB I have spheres here off 89 to end of production XJ40's would this be the same part??
JLM1907
according to JH parts also fits XJS 139052 to 226625
now I'm not familar with XJS vins, so do not know if this will include your car
post a pic of the offending item?
JLM1907
according to JH parts also fits XJS 139052 to 226625
now I'm not familar with XJS vins, so do not know if this will include your car
post a pic of the offending item?
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Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
Rob
yes, they are the same part, the earlier ' Girling ' brakes on the '40 is different, but the later model ones are exactly the same
pm me m8
BB
yes, they are the same part, the earlier ' Girling ' brakes on the '40 is different, but the later model ones are exactly the same
pm me m8
BB
1989 5.3ltr V12 XJS Coupé FULLY RESTORED
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
BB
you have a pm, I have used ones here, no new ones though
you have a pm, I have used ones here, no new ones though
88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
BB best new price I can find is £155 plus vat
I wonder if the pressure switch is at fault and not the sphere??
I wonder if the pressure switch is at fault and not the sphere??
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Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
its possible the switch is at fault ,
but as i loose pressure and the pump kicks in on pressing the brake pedal , it indicates there is no ' stored energy ' for the accumulator , just solid pressure that drops on pedal push , and i can hear the switch clicking in and out . so i think its the sphere,
i will be back next week trying to find a switch , lol
BB
ps, my local breakers sell it all for £20 if he has them, but there is no way of knowing if it works before fitting it , but he does take them back if not working ( its and old fashioned pull it apart yourself breakers ) , he is only interested in scrap value of anything he sells.
but as i loose pressure and the pump kicks in on pressing the brake pedal , it indicates there is no ' stored energy ' for the accumulator , just solid pressure that drops on pedal push , and i can hear the switch clicking in and out . so i think its the sphere,
i will be back next week trying to find a switch , lol
BB
ps, my local breakers sell it all for £20 if he has them, but there is no way of knowing if it works before fitting it , but he does take them back if not working ( its and old fashioned pull it apart yourself breakers ) , he is only interested in scrap value of anything he sells.
1989 5.3ltr V12 XJS Coupé FULLY RESTORED
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
ok BB, keep us posted on progress, here to help if we can
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
A possible alternative is a firm called Pleiades, in Huntingdon (01487 831239) who are reputed to be able to refurbish the original accumulator at much less cost.
The lemforder part number is said to be 834 000 008, if that helps at all.
The lemforder part number is said to be 834 000 008, if that helps at all.
Al McL
'93 XJS 4.0 - '20 XF 2.0 Sportbrake
'93 XJS 4.0 - '20 XF 2.0 Sportbrake
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
Sorry to thread derail, but can a sphere be re-gassed rather than replaced (assuming that the sphere is not faulty)? If so, anyone know where? I'm South East Midlands based.
Thanks, Rich.
Thanks, Rich.
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
Brake Buster,
Are you certain you've successfully bled your brakes? I had problems with my 91 V12, and thought it was the accumulator, then the master cylinder/control gubbins. But I eventually realized it was that I'd not fully bled the rear brakes. It took me a couple of litres of fluid as far as I remember, not to mention both metric and imperial swear words
Are you certain you've successfully bled your brakes? I had problems with my 91 V12, and thought it was the accumulator, then the master cylinder/control gubbins. But I eventually realized it was that I'd not fully bled the rear brakes. It took me a couple of litres of fluid as far as I remember, not to mention both metric and imperial swear words
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1991 XJS V12 "facelift"
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1991 XJS V12 "facelift"
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Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
Paul,
thanx for the heads up , but it was definitely the sphere,
i got a replacement from a local breakers , and when i took off the old one, it was full of fluid and the bladder had collapsed ,
screwing on the new one was an immediate improvement once the pump started
i am now getting ' code 21 ' from the ABS ecu , which is the master solenoid valve , its probably stuck after not working for several years ,
i will ply it gently with 12v to kick it in to life, ( or kill it )
BB
thanx for the heads up , but it was definitely the sphere,
i got a replacement from a local breakers , and when i took off the old one, it was full of fluid and the bladder had collapsed ,
screwing on the new one was an immediate improvement once the pump started
i am now getting ' code 21 ' from the ABS ecu , which is the master solenoid valve , its probably stuck after not working for several years ,
i will ply it gently with 12v to kick it in to life, ( or kill it )
BB
1989 5.3ltr V12 XJS Coupé FULLY RESTORED
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
Re: ABS accumulator sphere required
It is 10 years since I had the sphere re-charged, as an item on my list of things to do before the next MOT, I thought it best to get it re-charged again.
Those great chaps at Pleiades in Cambridgeshire did their magic again, I posted it off Monday and got it back Thursday, tested, charged, painted and new O ring for about £60 which included postage and VAT.
A fantastic turn around, so for anyone with concerns over their sphere they need look no further IMO.
Those great chaps at Pleiades in Cambridgeshire did their magic again, I posted it off Monday and got it back Thursday, tested, charged, painted and new O ring for about £60 which included postage and VAT.
A fantastic turn around, so for anyone with concerns over their sphere they need look no further IMO.
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