Hi - I have just had the classic "wet feet" problem following this weeks heavy rains. I have removed and checked both drain hoses and they are clear, but on pushing wire up the male drain stub at the bottom of the AC unit the wire stops dead an inch or so in - coinciding with where the drain joins the base of the unit. Does anyone know if I can force the wire up further, or will I hit / damage something important ? Looking at the service manual, the evaporator unit should be well out of the way, so I think I just have a hard accumulation of sludge. My hands are too big to get into the unit via the blower hose inlets when I remove the plastic blue blower hoses, so I can't investigate that way!
The car is a '96 Celebration.
Thanks in advance
Steve
AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
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AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
Hello Steve and welcome.
There is a steel baffle which is what you will be hitting. Poking won't help as it will only push the rubbish up not out.
When you have the blue hose off, the plastic stubs can be twisted off like a bayonet fitting. You should then be able to see inside to clean it out. Likely paint flakes and foam seal debris causing the blockage.
Its not easy access as you have found out.
There is a steel baffle which is what you will be hitting. Poking won't help as it will only push the rubbish up not out.
When you have the blue hose off, the plastic stubs can be twisted off like a bayonet fitting. You should then be able to see inside to clean it out. Likely paint flakes and foam seal debris causing the blockage.
Its not easy access as you have found out.
AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
Pop
Thanks for the advice - will give it a go - and thanks for your Sept 2007 tech tip with pictures, which was a great help when I first had the problem.
Cheers
Steve
Thanks for the advice - will give it a go - and thanks for your Sept 2007 tech tip with pictures, which was a great help when I first had the problem.
Cheers
Steve
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AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
can i ask a really silly question
why would the AC drains be overflowing from the rain ?
from what i know ( which isnt actually that much ) the ac has its own drainage, and isnt connected to any body drainage from rainwater on the roof etc ? the ac drainage catches condensation from the cooling coils( heat exchanger ) for the aircon, this has to collect and drain away,
what i do know is that the air intake below the windscreen can get filled with debris, and block the two large drains that flow into the engine bay , with these drains blocked the well under the wiper motor fils to the point of the water wanting to overflow into the air inlet chambers for the fan ventilation
this can be exaggerated if the car is parked facing up a slope, or to one side, ....
the other usual cause is a broken windscreen seal from corrosion etc, as the chrome on the corners is actually a drain away for the roof, these also get blocked forcing water of the the high mark of draining away
just my opinion, but you might be looking for the wrong type of leak.....?
BB
why would the AC drains be overflowing from the rain ?
from what i know ( which isnt actually that much ) the ac has its own drainage, and isnt connected to any body drainage from rainwater on the roof etc ? the ac drainage catches condensation from the cooling coils( heat exchanger ) for the aircon, this has to collect and drain away,
what i do know is that the air intake below the windscreen can get filled with debris, and block the two large drains that flow into the engine bay , with these drains blocked the well under the wiper motor fils to the point of the water wanting to overflow into the air inlet chambers for the fan ventilation
this can be exaggerated if the car is parked facing up a slope, or to one side, ....
the other usual cause is a broken windscreen seal from corrosion etc, as the chrome on the corners is actually a drain away for the roof, these also get blocked forcing water of the the high mark of draining away
just my opinion, but you might be looking for the wrong type of leak.....?
BB
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1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
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1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
BB
Follow your reasoning and agree
BUT
I find when using the car in humid conditions (especially if warm as well) the volume of condensation, as evidenced by the puddles that form underneath when parked, is much greater.
During the rainy season with humidity up around 90 - 100% the rather inadequate drains on the Delanair Mk III get overwhelmed, even when they are not totally blocked.
Follow your reasoning and agree
BUT
I find when using the car in humid conditions (especially if warm as well) the volume of condensation, as evidenced by the puddles that form underneath when parked, is much greater.
During the rainy season with humidity up around 90 - 100% the rather inadequate drains on the Delanair Mk III get overwhelmed, even when they are not totally blocked.
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AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
very tru....
i actually work in a large mainframe computer building, and our constant battle with humidity is never ending, especially on warm wet days, and the bloody condensate drains are always getting blocked,
i think what i was trying to say was not to just focus on the drains for the AC, but consider other posabilaties , especially after the downpours we have had
either that or drill a gert big hole in the floor, lol
BB
i actually work in a large mainframe computer building, and our constant battle with humidity is never ending, especially on warm wet days, and the bloody condensate drains are always getting blocked,
i think what i was trying to say was not to just focus on the drains for the AC, but consider other posabilaties , especially after the downpours we have had
either that or drill a gert big hole in the floor, lol
BB
1989 5.3ltr V12 XJS Coupé FULLY RESTORED
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior
old cars
1999 4ltr Sovereign XJ8
2004 X-Type
AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
Thanks guys - cleared the AC unit (some gunk, but not too bad) - drains down the side of the windscreen both clear, as were the plenum drains - but I have found a leak around the base of the windscreen, drivers side, so will get that sorted at the August service - the joys of XJS ownership! Suspect the AC unit just got overwhelmed in the downpours..
Re: AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
Thought I would add a postscript to this post for any future readers...
I fixed my original probelm by cleaning out the AC unit AND getting the windscreen re-sealed - only to find I had wet feet again a couple of weeks ago - this time it was due to the AC drain hose getting dislodged when I had a new radio fitted over the summer!
I fixed my original probelm by cleaning out the AC unit AND getting the windscreen re-sealed - only to find I had wet feet again a couple of weeks ago - this time it was due to the AC drain hose getting dislodged when I had a new radio fitted over the summer!
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Previous Jaguars:
2007 (08MY) 4.2 XKR Coupe
1996 XJS 4.0 Celebration Coupe
1988 XJ-S 3.6 Coupe
Re: AC drains - blockage in AC unit?
Hi,
my experience, though with a 1988 convertible was similar. Occasional wet feet with no obvious cause. Cleared the AC and checked the windscreen wiper motor void and pipes. Wet feet sometimes with and without the rain. Final cure came when I had the screen replaced because of a crack. The sealant wasn't bonded all the way around; there were gaps in places. Surprisingly there was no rusting and the paint was good all the way around. This was the first time the screen had been out since manufacture and it would appear to have always been like it.
my experience, though with a 1988 convertible was similar. Occasional wet feet with no obvious cause. Cleared the AC and checked the windscreen wiper motor void and pipes. Wet feet sometimes with and without the rain. Final cure came when I had the screen replaced because of a crack. The sealant wasn't bonded all the way around; there were gaps in places. Surprisingly there was no rusting and the paint was good all the way around. This was the first time the screen had been out since manufacture and it would appear to have always been like it.
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