Heated front windscreen

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atlegranby
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Heated front windscreen

Postby atlegranby » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:24 am

Hi
The winter is coming to Norway, and this morning the car was white frosted. I started my car an turned on the defroster. I assume the heated windscreen is turned on automaticly (?), but it was only the heat from the heater that defrost the windscreen.
Is there a fuse somewhere or maby a relay that is defective?
Please tell me where to find it.

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Atle Granby

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Postby Brakebuster » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:47 am

you have to push the button on the heater control panel to bring on the heated front screen, its a button next to the heated rear screen button

if its not there, then you dont have a heated front screen i'm afraid

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Postby atlegranby » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:52 pm

Hi
I did not explain correct......

I did push the button, as I named the defroster button......

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Electric Windscreens

Postby AlanC » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:50 pm

Looks like these electric windscreens could be a bit dodgy. Mine switches on but the majority of the elements don't work. Those that do are on the passenger's side (useful!). Can't be a matter of over-use, as it probably gets used only one or two times each winter, in most new cars. More likely to be poor quality components when new (come on, Jaguar, get your suppliers to QA their stuff!). Reckon I'll manage until a stone takes the window out, though. Too much of a faddle to change the windscreen.

Anyone else's working badly or is it just me and Atle Granby?

AlanC

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Wrong button?

Postby blackflash » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:29 pm

Hi,

Only just discovered this thread so forgive the delay. The DEF buitton simply directs all air to the windscreen - this button appears on all cars.

If you have the optional heated windscreen then you will have two buttons next to this, one with an F and one with an R and you need to press the F button; if you have only the R button then your car does not have the optional electrically heated front screen.

Hope this helps,

Nigel

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Postby atlegranby » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:47 pm

Hi
I was able to identify the problem myself, and it is like you say. I only got the DEF button and not the F button. But my car has a heated screen fitted!! At some point the screen has been replaced on my car, and they fitted the incorrect heated screen.
I am going to innstall a seperate button and a timer-relay just so I can use this facility. This will save me from idle the engine before driving, as we are environmentally frendly people..... :D

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Atle Granby

1972 XJ6
1999 XJ8

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Postby blackflash » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:06 pm

Before you do that, you may want to hang around on eBay for a while...

I have just picked up a replacement a/c control panel for £20 and it's in perfect condition with both F and R buttons. The only reason I'm replacing mine is for cosmetic reasons as the black has rubbed partially off both the blue temperature arrow and the recirculation buttons so when they are illuminated they look a little untidy. I tried to cover up with a black pen and it helped a bit but not much.

I am going to get my replacement panel fitted next time it goes in for something else which is likely to be January. If you are in no rush and would be happy with my old panel then you can have it for free except for postage costs!

All the best,

Nigel

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Postby atlegranby » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:29 pm

Hi
Most kind of you, and I will axept this gentle offer. The best xmas gift ever :D

I was on e-bay (I usually are) and found me a control panel with the F and R buttons, but the company did send me the wrong item. So I have got two identical ones....... I did give up trying to find the correct one and wanted to use the space in the middle, between the heated seat buttons, for a neat push-button.
But I am happy I do not have to do any cosmetic changes in my car.
Please send me your adress and the shipping rate to: 6881 Aardalstangen, Norway. I will send you money in the mail.

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Atle Granby

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Glad I can help

Postby blackflash » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:24 pm

Drop me a line in January to bell.nigel@btinternet.com to remind me and as soon as I switch mine I'll let you have postage cost and address.

Happy Christmas!

Nigel

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Postby dfielding » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:28 pm

I am going to innstall a seperate button and a timer-relay just so I can use this facility. This will save me from idle the engine before driving, as we are environmentally frendly people..... :D

Hi, just wondered how you do this? I mean, do you leave your key in the oignition and let it sit for a while or a timer which works to a certain time? I am interested in copying your idea as I often have to wait for ages for screen to defrost.

Many thanks :D

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Postby atlegranby » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:52 am

Hi
Like all Ford cars with heated windscreen you just start your engine, press the button to heat the screen and drive avay after a minute or so. The eletric will defrost your window, and if you (like me) driving through a tunnel shortly after start, the wind screen will not become misted.

The idea is to not interupt the original wireing on the car. I will just use the (blue/purple?)wire from the original button and make my own setup with releys.
I am trying to find a usable relay, and when I doo I will notefy you.

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Atle Granby

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Postby atlegranby » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:52 am

Hi all
I did manage to track down some suitable releys for this project.


http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... timers.php

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Panel awaits, Atle!

Postby blackflash » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:25 pm

Atle,

Sent you an email also: sound system upgrade fitted and panel went in at same time so if you still want my old one let me know your address via email.

All the best,

Nigel

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Postby atlegranby » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:11 am

Hi all
I was trying to innstall the heated windscrean wiering this weekend, but it seems to be a problem with the originale wiering....
I got my old panel out of my car and discoverer that it has the same number (9) of wires coming out of the panel. Same colours allso!
So I am stuckt in this.
The only solution is to build this separately from rest of the car eletric. I will use a neat switch button and locate it in the middle of the panel, and use the 10 minute delay timer releys (Link above).


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Atle Granby

1972 XJ6
1999 XJ8

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rear windscreen repair

Postby joejag308 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:02 am

Atle, you say this is what you intend to do...........have you done it? does it now work?..........it wasnt anything to do with the wiring in the actual window panel then?.........Joe



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