Thought others might be interested in my approach to fixing an old Kenlowe fan to my Mk2.
I’ll leave aside the pros and cons of auxiliary fans. I got mine because I wanted the peace of mind of knowing that I could sit in the queue for the Goodwood Revival, and wouldn’t have to watch the temperature gauge climbing to max, and wonder what revs at idle achieved the best trade-off between airflow and heat generation. Fitting the 13” Kenlowe in pusher configuration certainly seemed to help with that.
The problem with this fan (and with others) is that they come with plastic ties to fix them through the vanes of the radiator. This is a horrible idea, running the risk of rubbing a hole in the radiator pipework over time and, more significantly for me, meaning a very difficult job to cut the ties when wanting to remove the radiator. There is no room to get the rad out with the aux fan still attached, especially if you want to keep the original fan impeller and shroud in place. The radiator place I used recently confirmed that they had come across many occasions when the plastic ties had caused leaks.
You need a bracket, but which one will fit, and how do you attach it to the car? I’ve had success with the fan brackets and straps designed for SPAL fans, available from T7 Design for £10 each (https://www.t7design.co.uk/products/rad ... p-kit.html). You have to get 4 brackets and straps. They have to be cut and bent to shape. The brackets are a good fit into the T-shaped slots on the Kenlowe, and can be secured by drilling through the bracket and its slot and inserting a screw or split pin. For the attachment to the car I used stainless steel rivet nuts. These inserts create a threaded insert in the bodywork. Drill a hole of the right size, and then use a tool to mount the rivnut and fix it in place – same principle as a pop rivet, but unfortunately you have to use a special rivet nut tool. I’ve found the Tacklife tool excellent, very solidly made and much more useful for various car restoration tasks than I expected. £50-ish. Imagine for example not having to hold a nut steady inside the wheel arch while fastening a bolt from inside the engine bay! https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073WXFP34? ... E_DDE_dt_1.
The only other thing to think about is the seal between the fan and the radiator. Pusher fans are apparently less efficient than pullers, so getting them close the rad is important. You can bend the SPAL straps to bring the fan close to rad, but it is also helpful to fit a closed cell adhesive backed strip around the edge of the fan (6mm thick neoprene sponge/foam). This improves the seal but also prevents any danger of the fan vibrating against the rad. Here’s a link to a suitable strip https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121388027214.
The result is a super-solid fan installation, independent of the rad. Took a little while to fit (2 or 3 hours), but cost less than a rad rebuild. See photos below.
Ps. This whole job started when I decided to replace the Kenlowe variable temperature fan controller with a unit from Revotec. The Kenlowe version has a capillary pipe going into the top hose – another terrible idea, causing endless leaks. The Revotec controller requires you to cut the top hose and insert the temperature switch unit into it – a bit clunky but effective. A word of warning – the wires from the Revotec unit are a bit short, only just reaching the inner wing on the other side of the engine bay. Don’t be tempted to rewire it – very easy terminally to blow up the unit, as I found to my cost.
Kenlowe fan - improving the mounting
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Re: Kenlowe fan - improving the mounting
Hello Alex K,
just a comment on push versus pull.
I don't believe that either position is superior. Advocates for the puller say that pushers block the airflow being in front of the rdaiator, however, pullers block the airflow to the same extent, given identical units, as air has to flow through and around the fan unit.
I agree with your logic in fixing the fan on brackets rather than the cable tie lash up.
Alec
just a comment on push versus pull.
I don't believe that either position is superior. Advocates for the puller say that pushers block the airflow being in front of the rdaiator, however, pullers block the airflow to the same extent, given identical units, as air has to flow through and around the fan unit.
I agree with your logic in fixing the fan on brackets rather than the cable tie lash up.
Alec
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Re: Kenlowe fan - improving the mounting
Hi. Thought I'd add my threepenny worth. I have removed the standard fan from my 3.8 and fitted a "cheap" (£30) 15" pusher. Works well even in hot weather. I managed to fit it without using cable ties, which didn't seem like a good idea to me. I think the only disadvantage of a pusher is that the airflow is rotating to a certain extent as it enters the rad, so there will be some turbulence and reduced flow. Unfortunately a puller doesn't seem to be an option due to the lack of clearance between the water pump pulley and rad.
Pete.
Pete.
Re: Kenlowe fan - improving the mounting
I have an electric fan in front of the radiator installed by Clayton when they installed air on a few years ago. I assume this pushes air through the radiator. They fitted it on brackets and fitted a manual switch which I tend to leave on as there is little chance of the car running cold!
After many years use I am now seeing an increase in engine temperature, nothing drastic but runs at about 75/80 deg or up to about 85/90 on a very hot day.
I have had my 240 for about 35 years and it has never run very hot and I’ve always changed the waiter/ antifreeze mix every two years or so. I’ve also had the rad flushed with just clean water (we have very soft water in Birmingham) and the vanes blown through with an air line.
Knowing, or hoping, I don’t have a serious problem I’m thinking of having the whole coolant system flushed through with a proprietary cleanser like Wynn’s coolant flush.
Does anyone have any experience of this type of product either positive or negative? Although not a big task I’m reticent to perhaps disturb anything in either the rad or engine that may cause future problems.
I did think of changing the radiator as an update as I guess mine is now over fifty years old. Don’t want to be changing it every fifty years lol.
Manners don’t offer a replacement for the 240, Barratts want £850 for an aluminium one and the independents who advertise extensively have not replied to my e mail
I’ve seen alloy radiators advertised on e bay for about £100 plus £45 shipping from Germany but looking at the small print these appear to be made in China and I’m a bit nervous that it either won’t fit or will be badly made. Again, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of these?
Thanks
Pete
After many years use I am now seeing an increase in engine temperature, nothing drastic but runs at about 75/80 deg or up to about 85/90 on a very hot day.
I have had my 240 for about 35 years and it has never run very hot and I’ve always changed the waiter/ antifreeze mix every two years or so. I’ve also had the rad flushed with just clean water (we have very soft water in Birmingham) and the vanes blown through with an air line.
Knowing, or hoping, I don’t have a serious problem I’m thinking of having the whole coolant system flushed through with a proprietary cleanser like Wynn’s coolant flush.
Does anyone have any experience of this type of product either positive or negative? Although not a big task I’m reticent to perhaps disturb anything in either the rad or engine that may cause future problems.
I did think of changing the radiator as an update as I guess mine is now over fifty years old. Don’t want to be changing it every fifty years lol.
Manners don’t offer a replacement for the 240, Barratts want £850 for an aluminium one and the independents who advertise extensively have not replied to my e mail
I’ve seen alloy radiators advertised on e bay for about £100 plus £45 shipping from Germany but looking at the small print these appear to be made in China and I’m a bit nervous that it either won’t fit or will be badly made. Again, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of these?
Thanks
Pete
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