Inoperative speedometer.

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Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:22 am

Hello all,

my newly acquired X Type has a defective speedometer. All other instruments work and the ABS light is not lit so it would seem thw wheel sensors are OK? I can't seem to identify a specific fuse for that.
Any suggestions welcome.

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:58 pm

sadly not, but I have a dash pack here if you want to swap one over as a trial to see if the speedo is at fault or something else, cheap to!!
88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
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97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby Brakebuster » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:07 pm

don't forget that the dash pack on the X needs to be paired to the car using JLR SSD software to function correctly

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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:36 pm

don't forget that the dash pack on the X needs to be paired to the car using JLR SSD software to function correctly

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good point BB
88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK

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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:48 am

Hello Rob,

thanks for the input.

We have a Land Rover garage customer and I thought I would get him to do a scan initially to see if I can pinpoint the area of the fault.
What price did you have in mind for the cluster?

Many thanks,

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:53 pm

88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK

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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:09 pm

Hello Rob,

thank you, that unit is suitable for a 2.5 Estate?

I note from your website that you are breaking a 2.5 car, what do you want for the coolant reservoir assuming it is sound, mine seems to have a small crack so is losing some small amount of coolant.

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:05 pm

Alec pm sent

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88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:12 pm

Hello all,

an update but no real progress.

This is what I did after fitting a second hand instrument cluster using the Jaguarr SDD software.

Perhaps I did this in the wrong order but I'm new to this system and the car.
After all the usual data acquisition I entered 'Service Functions' then set the 'Security immobilisation set up' to run. This went through it's routine but in the end it came up with completed but unable to clear diagnostic trouble codes 0x1582 and 0x9582. It said to use the diagnostic trouble code monitor to view stored diagnostic trouble codes. (I haven't yet done this)
I left that and went to 'Programme new transponders', and to be frank I did not know exactly what this step does. As it comes before the Security immobilisation set up perhaps this step is the one I should have run first. I set this to run but when I reached the step that said this will erase all key fobs, I decided caution was in order and aborted the procedure in case I ended up with an immobile vehicle. The other part of this routine says you must have two keys minimum and I have only one.

Any comments or hints as to where to go now;, my other option is to send the instrument cluster for repair assuming it doesn't lose it's security settings?

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:48 pm

Hello all,

I sent the instrument cluster to a company I found on the internet (Cartronix) at midday on Wednesday and received it back this morning. Exceptional service and I now have an operating speedometer.
While the cluster was away I did a plug change and all plugs had large to very large gaps, anyway new plugs and a few other bits and pieces. Our local Jaguar dealer (Hatfields, Shrewsbury) had to order most of what I wanted. Is this typical of dealers? They did have them within 24 hours so no real hardship, perhaps the X Type is a bit old now for them to have a large spares holding?

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:55 pm

most dealers now work "just in time" and carry very little stock, most stock is on trucks on the motorways over night!!

glad the unit is working again
88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK

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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:29 pm

Hello Rob,

I was assuming as the parts I wanted were parts that the dealer would use himself during services that they would have a stockholding?

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby robv12 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:36 am

you would be surprised just how little is now held at the dealers, even my local big dealer in Edinburgh has to order in for me, bear in mind if a car is booked in for service, the dealer knows its coming and will order the essentials , filters, plugs, belts and other customer specified parts, up front, most now do not cater for folk like us "chance sales off the street"
88 3.6 XJ40 EX JDHT
88 3.6 XJ40 SOV
93 XJ40 XJ12
94 XJ40 Daimler Majestic Insignia
96 X300 Daimler Century EX JDHT
97 Daimler Double Six
97 XJR 300 Manual EX JDHT
55 X TYPE EST 3.0 SP PREM
56 X150 XK

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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby piman » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:56 pm

Hello Rob,

I suppose that makes sense to them except that I have to travel 20 miles to the nearest dealer.

However I think that may alter the way I shop and see if I can get parts from the internet?

Alec
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Re: Inoperative speedometer.

Postby Brakebuster » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:02 pm

Hello Rob,

I suppose that makes sense to them except that I have to travel 20 miles to the nearest dealer.

However I think that may alter the way I shop and see if I can get parts from the internet?

Alec

contact the dealer, get the part number and price

then surf the internet for ' genuine ' parts, or at worst OEM , don't buy anything aftermarket for the most part

then you could save money , however, the net isn't always the cheapest, or best customer service,

and a nice drive to your local dealership can always be treated as a nice outing in the Jag

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1989 5.3ltr V12 XJS Coupé FULLY RESTORED
2015 2.2TD Sportbrake in BRG and black leather
1994 3.2S XJ40 in Morocco Red with Doeskin interior

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2004 X-Type


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