Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

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Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby Dsquared » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:31 pm

1998 3.2 130K miles little use in last 3 months.
Despite replacement batteries. key fobs no longer operate any functions on the car. There is a beep from the engine bay when a button is pressed but nothing else. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line the valet button has been pressed and, as the black-headed key will not unlock the boot, my stuff is locked in. Any ideas? This has only happened very recently ie this week sometime.
I am assuming the key-operated lock in the boot has rusted or something; the external button hasn't worked for a couple of years now either.
I've seen other topics involving SLCMs but, as its in the boot....


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Dead Fob

Postby joejag308 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:36 pm

Dave...........when you replaced the batteries in the key fob did you put the new ones in almost immediately or with say a minte or so.....have a look under the recding of key fobs in the security section .....there is a certain way for each model to reprogramme the fobs ........

Method 1 (this works on my 2001 MY car...I've used it more than once)
Open the boot with the key.
Turn on the ignition (do not engage the starter)
Wait for the self test lamps to go out.
press the "VALET" button 5 times within 5 seconds
then press any button on the remote.
It should then work (don't forget to shut the boot lid first)
You may need to reprogramme any other fobs you may have as well,in the same session.

Method 2 Some members say this works but it does not on my car.
Hold headlamp flasher switch in the ON position and turn ignition switch to position I (first position)
Flash headlamps four times and the system will enter alarm programming mode which is confirmed by the security light on the gear shift flashing.
Press either the lock or unlock button on the keyfob and the alarm will chirp a confirmation when the button is pressed.
The alarm must complete a full cycle of programming of transmitters five times so when there is only on transmitter then this needs to be programmed five times.

Item was under "electrics".........good luck .................Joe


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Intermittent key fob

Postby joejag308 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:56 am

David did your reply from Dave Marks cure the problem? if so i will post his reply to the forum, if it turned out to be something else could you let me know or post it in the forum please......it could help others with the same problem...........Joe


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Postby BrianG » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:32 pm

Hi Dsquared,

FYI the black key should unlock the boot (and the glovebox). It's the GREEN headed key that's the Valet key and it won't unlock anything other than the door. Try squirting lots of WD 40 into the boot lock to free it up. I give mine a wiggle with the key every so often in case the electric release fails due to the well-known broken wiring problem around the hinge (it's happened to me twice so far).

Brian
2006 X350 3.5 V8 Sport Premium in Midnight / Ivory
1969 Triumph Daytona rider
Previous XJs:
X350 2.7 TDVi in Westminster Blue / Barley
X308 4.0 V8 in Meteorite / Warm Charcoal
X300 3.2 in Spruce / Barley
XJ40 3.2 Sport in Gunmetal / Saville Grey

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Dave Marks reply to DSquared

Postby joejag308 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:03 am

RE Dsquareds problem ......i recieved an answer from Dave Marks re the problem it is a technicle thing sometimes although Brian G makes some good points too........here is the reply from Dave Marks for dsquared post
Hello Joe,

It might be the fob which is at fault - they often gum up inside.

I suggest that he dismantles the fob and cleans the contacts under the push buttons.

Make sure he has cleaning materials etc to hand as if the fob is dismantled for more than 7 minutes or so (I think), the programming will be lost.

If still nothing, take it to a auto factors, most now have a test device which will tell if the fob is sending a signal or not.

if not, replace the fob, if it is,... method 2 is the one to program a V8 but you don't need to program the one fob five times, just do as many as you have, UP to five.

Also, ensure the batteries are fitted the right way around!

Regards

David
I do hope this sorts all the reprogramming of the key fobs along with the items within the security section.......Joe




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Re: Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby danr » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:17 am

Hey maybe a stupid question but where is the best place to get new key fobs, is it time to visit a jag dealer as both mine are worn. thanks

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Re: Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby kgb123 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:12 pm

Hello

I'm having a similar problem to Dsquared. I have put up a couple of seperate posts in regarding the issue but thought I'd try this thread given the nature of the original post.

I have one old fob and one brand new which I bought from Dave Roche at Jaguar Parts in Aberdeen. £53 including delivery, Jaguar main dealer wanted £85 plus VAT. Hope this helps danr.

Both fobs are transmitting ok, have checked at car parts shop, batteries were weak in the oldest fob, so replaced and both fobs have a good strong signal.

When I put the car into programming mode as per method 2 described earlier in this thread, I get the confirmation beep from the system that it is in program mode, but when I press either of the key fobs I get no confirmation beep. Program mode times out after about 20 seconds.

I have disconnected the battery and left off for some time in the hope something my reset, but no joy!

Is there a fuse or a relay in the receiver circuit anywhere? I don't have any circuit diagrams to work from so am struggling on the Rx circuitry. Where is the receiver antenna mounted in the car? I know control module is in the boot...but that's all I know.

This fault is really bugging me, any advise help on sorting it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Kevin

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Re: Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby ptjs1 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:31 pm

Kev,

You don't detail in your profile or posts what year is your XJ8 but this link may help for circuitry:

http://captainjaguarscathouse.com/Elect ... 0Guide.pdf

Paul
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Re: Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby kgb123 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:18 pm

Thanks Paul,

Car is a 2002 3.2SE. Circuit info is in the lit you kindly provided the link for.....I thought I was driving a car not a space shuttle!! Last time I did vehicle electrics it was a shed load simpler than this! Thanks for the help, I will set about trying to work out whats going on.

Kev

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Re: Key Fobs no longer operate any functions

Postby PaulCoidan » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:11 pm

Hi to all. I have just had my XJ8 key fobs repaired by someone I found on e-bay. The cost was £12.20. The carbon contacts are replaced with switches. He does have a website which saves going through e-bay, and you can still pay by paypal.

http://www.spanglefish.com/fingazfobz/i ... eid=538926

Quick service, normally sent back the day after being received.

The key fobs now work as if new and give a reassuring click when the buttons are pressed.


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