Doors not locking

[yelnats]

Doors do not lock but the alarm does set, Using the unlock button on the key fob allows me to open the doors without the alarm being triggered, open the doors without using the button and the alarm goes off. Engine starts fine (a beautiful thing!) and all is well except the rear interior lights stay illuminated, is it an electrical fault or mechanical? and where do I start looking? Hope someone can help.

Yelnats

[Brakebuster]

sounds strange, but the X308 is known for breaking the boot loom right by the right hand hinge for the boot

this can result in broken circuits and or shorted out circuits , and this would be my first point of call

lots of posts about this broken boot loom

another possibility is a stuck microswitch in one of the door locks, usually the one that doesn't physically lock, but not always , lot more involved and much more expensive to fix

hope its a simple boot loom fix

BB

[yelnats]

Thanks BB
I shall have a look at the boot loom as soon as Liz (wife) gets back from the hairdressers, I will report on findings.

Yelnats

[yelnats]

Boot loom wires all good. Been advised to put new battery in key fob, I can't believe it could be as simple as that but hey! it wont do any harm. I don't know where to go next, considering taking off the drivers door panel to have a looksee.

Yelnats

[Brakebuster]

Boot loom wires all good. Been advised to put new battery in key fob, I can't believe it could be as simple as that but hey! it wont do any harm. I don't know where to go next, considering taking off the drivers door panel to have a looksee.

Yelnats

did you ' pare ' open the loom that is strapped to the hinge , as all the damage happens inside the wires

the tell-tale is lumpy internal copper stands to individual wires inside the loom , or broken altogether , all you need is a sharp knife and to be very careful

as the car is seeing the fob for the alarm , i would be surprised if the battery is bad, but you never know,
also the security and central locking module is located in the boot floor by the battery ,

good luck either way

BB

[ptjs1]

yelnats,

I would be amazed if changing the battery fixes it. Who told you that would most likely be the problem?

If the fob sends a lock signal that is received by the car (which it must be as the alarm is being set) then the fob is working. My guess would be the microswitch on the drivers door which in turn can fire the locks on the other doors.

Good luck

Paul

[yelnats]

Thanks for the input BB & Paul. Today I had a look at the fuses in the box under the drivers side passenger seat and discovered one 15amp fuse blown, I replaced it, tried the locking again and it worked... but only once, the fuse blew again. I presume now that the micro switch will be OK and I am likely to have a short somewhere, I am satisfied the boot loom is sound so where do we go from here?

Yelnats

[ptjs1]

yelnats,

The fuse will blow because the current draw is too high. That could be a short or an excessive current draw on the circuit. Apart from checking the fuse holder connections carefully, I would still then go to the drivers door. If the microswitch here can't "fire" the lock properly, it will "fire" back and possibly cycle preventing the other doors from locking. It could be the current load here and it's connection that causes the fuse to blow. Also try looking for any chafing on the wires where it enters into the leading edge of the door. It's the prime one to check. If you get stuck, pull all the door cards and disconnect the wires on all the microswitches. Then connect the drivers one and test. If ok, start connecting the others and re-test, checking for chafed wires on each door entry.

Let us know how you get on.

Good luck

Paul

[yelnats]

Progress report, Today I removed the drivers door card, disconnected all wiring and after a struggle took out the lock assembly, then the Microswitch, this was mucky! I gave it a clean, squirted it with electrical connection cleaner, oiled the lock mechanism and put it all back together (another struggle) fitted a new 15amp fuse, crossed my fingers , closed the door and pressed the lock button, IT WORKS AGAIN. All now appears to be in order back to how it should be, marvelous! Thank you very much for your help fella's particularly Paul, have a happy Christmas, mines looking better already.

Yelnats

[ptjs1]

Yelnats,

Glad you fixed it cheaply and that we were of some little help! At least the car will be secure this Christmas!

Cheers

Paul

[yelnats]

Door locking has failed again only this time with complications, I cannot lock the car with the fob button or the key, also having problems with drivers window not wanting to close. Presumably these issues will all be linked. Any thoughts?

Happy new year all. Yelnats

[ptjs1]

Yelnats,

Can you describe in a bit more detail what happens when you try and lock the car. Does the car lock then immediately unlock? Does the drivers door lock but not the others? Try and describe the procedure that happens both with the key and the remote fob.

Paul

[yelnats]

Thank you Paul, i will try to explain the sequence of events but before I do I should tell you that the problems have now got worse, the gear shift is locked in 'park' the engine starts and runs fine but I cannot move the car. The trouble began a couple of weeks ago or so, when I tried to lock the car using the fob button, it did not lock but the alarm did set, I tried the key and the locks engaged. Later I could not unlock the doors using the button so used the key which worked but the alarm went off! put the key in the ignition and the alarm stopped, the car drove as normal all electrical stuff working. Had a good look at all wiring were possible found nothing untoward, removed drivers door panel as described previously put in a new fuse etc, and everything worked as it should a dozen times or more over a five day period until two days ago. I had left the car in a car park locked, when I tried to unlock it a little later it wouldn't! with button or key, I fiddled around with the key a few times backwards and forwards and suddenly all the windows came down!! I opened the door using the inside handle, the windows wound up individually as normal except the drivers which only went halfway, I got it up eventually. To leave the car overnight I used the lock button which I think set the alarm but did not lock the doors, this morning I used the button to disarm the alarm opened the door put the key in the ignition and started the engine and despair gearshift locked.

Hope you can make some sense of this.

Yelnats

[ptjs1]

yelnats,

If I've interpreted your symptoms correctly, then it seems that it could still be a microswitch problem on the drivers door. If the drivers door is not locking at all (rather than locking then unlocking) but the alarm is setting; then the fob is working but not able to fire the drivers door lock. When you use the key, the lock is able to move so that implies ( I think!) that it's the microswitch circuit at fault.

As regards the gearbox selector, it could be a faulty rotary switch (which is mounted on the box) or, more likely, a brake light switch fault. It is even possible that the brake lights themselves being faulty / fused / blown can stop the brake light foot switch from activating the selector release mechanism. Check your brake lights first.

The good news is that you can release the lever from Park. Use a torx bit or even small screwdriver and undo the plastic cover button which is just in front of the "2" position. You can then insert a small screwdriver or similar and press gently down whilst pulling the lever back from Park. Once the lever has started to move, release the screwdriver and the lever can then be moved back to all the other positions.

I hope that helps!

Good luck

Paul

[Brakebuster]

the ignition key is designed to remove the star button on the gear selector plate, and once removed you can use the ignition key to insert into the hole to release the gear selector lock ,
this is shown in the owners manual ( from memory )

I also feel that this may well still be linked to faulty wiring in the boot , but you have confirmed that you have taken off the wiring from the hinge, opened up the loom and checked each individual wire for damage or being completely broken

I had these very issues many years ago when I had my 308 , and my boot loom was the cause, but that doesnt mean you may still have other unrelated issues causing your problems

BB

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