XKR new purchase, help required please

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XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby NickyVet » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:46 pm

:) Hello everyone
I am new to JEC and wondered if I could ask everyone's advice. I went to see a 2011 XKR yesterday and everything looks awesome for purchase, low mileage and stunning interior, however there was an area of paint blistering (about 2cm by 1cm) on the nearside rear wheel arch where it meets the rear bumper panel. I know corrosion can be a problem in this area and as the car is only relatively young should I run screaming in the opposite direction….. The garage have said they could put it right but this is likely to be a 'quick fix' I should imagine?

And are the limited edition 2008 XKR-S cars worth the extra?

Thank you for any advice you can give. This is a one in a lifetime purchase for me and I'm feeling slightly out of my depth :shock:

Happy New Year to all

Nicky

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Re: XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby ianoliver57 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:30 pm

Hi Nicky and welcome to the club. Until recently, I had a 2010 XKR. Superb car and very powerful!
You should not have too much problem with the small blister. It is unlikely to be serious corrosion as the X150 is aluminium and not steel bodied. You do need to ensure the dealer is competent to undertake repairs to aluminium as it is a different skill from steel repairs.
That said, you can always have it checked by an independant engineer to satisfy yourself there are no major problems.
On the positive side, it’s always a good negotiating point from your perspective!
Trust it also has few owners and FMDSH.?

Go for it, you know you want it!

Regards. Ian.
2009 XJ8 Sovereign X358 Final Edition 4.2 V8.
Previously
2004 S Type
2010 XF 3L petrol
2014 XF R-Sport
2010 XKR 5L
2011 XF S
2017 F Type 340
2019 XJ 3L V6
2021 XE R Dynamic P250 S
2021 F Type R Dynamic P450 AWD.

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Re: XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby ianoliver57 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:41 pm

Sorry, forgot the XKRS question. In my opinion, the ‘basic’ XKR is well powerful enough for a normal person and road use. I could not justify the extra cost for the S. and dont forget, it will be three years older than the 2011.

Happy New Year when it comes.

Regards

Ian.
2009 XJ8 Sovereign X358 Final Edition 4.2 V8.
Previously
2004 S Type
2010 XF 3L petrol
2014 XF R-Sport
2010 XKR 5L
2011 XF S
2017 F Type 340
2019 XJ 3L V6
2021 XE R Dynamic P250 S
2021 F Type R Dynamic P450 AWD.

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Re: XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby mike020150 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:02 am

Hi Nicky,
Ian is right in that, to date, corrosion has not raised its head as a real issue for the aluminium cars (2006 onwards). Isolated bubbling can be treated and made good by a body shop with the necessary skills. A 5 litre XKR is more powerful than an earlier 4.2 XKR-S and it has the revised interior. You need to drive both cars to decide which would be your preference and hence whether each would be worth their prices. It will be a while yet before either model starts to appreciate in value, if that's your concern. Buy an XK now to enjoy the driving experience! :D Mike.
2014 XK Dynamic R convertible; 1977 Daimler Double Six Coupe; 2023 XE AWD 300S

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Re: XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby J44EAG » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:49 pm

I have an aluminum bodied MY 2004 X350R and have only had one very small area of corrosion and paint bubbling to tackle. I can tell you it is a lot easier to treat than a steel car where one can suddenly find oneself having to deal with panel perforation!

Some eighteen months ago, I found a small patch of paint bubbling on the off side front wing just in the area one would perhaps find a mud flap located. Fortunately I didn`t have a mudflap to remove or gritty paint abrasion to deal with.

My experience with dealing with ali corrosion comes from my time in the aircraft air-frame repair business so I applied an identical procedure to deal with the X350 paint defect. I used a small grinder/sander which has just 25mm diameter garnet sanding discs of various grit grades. It also has a variable speed control. To begin, the panel was water washed, then wiped with iso-propanol alcohol as used by professional paint sprayers. This gets rid of any panel grease.

Using the small sander grinder with a P180 grit disc, soon had the bubbled paint off back to bright metal. The edges of the remaining paint were then flatted down to remove grinding scratches and taper the paint layers down into the opened up area. (Dish fashion) It was then dusted off with a new, soft and clean paint brush. Again iso-propanol wiping took place. That done, the existing paint was cleaned up with a soft cloth and G3 rubbing compound, water washed, compressed air dried and panel wiped again and left to flash dry. Masking was applied around the area as required but not around the opened up repair area. AT NO TIME WAS CARBORUNDUM BASED W&D PRODUCTION PAPER USED FOR FLATTING AT THIS STAGE.

Mixing a small quantity of aircraft grade alodine based two part etch primer (Upoxy Super-etch), it was then spray applied using a small compressed air powered spray gun fitted with a tight fan needle and nozzle. The primer was sprayed onto the opened prepared metal and overlapped onto the undamaged surrounding area by about 25mm. Three coats of etch primer were applied and left to air dry for about three hours in the sun.

Once dry the primer was water wet flatted with P1500 W&D paper to a smooth orange peel free finish. Great care was taken to ensure the primer was not over flatted to the point that the W&D paper broke through back down to the metal. Carborundum contacting aluminum would cause future corrosion issues! The wet flatting produced a smooth primer surface and removed the primer dust edges to nothing. Water washed and then buffed up with Faracla G3, the primer blended level to the undamaged paint. Water and panel wiped again and allowed to air dry the repair was ready for colour top coat.

For small repairs, I buy specially mixed Holts areosols from Halfords. Colour matching is perfect on my PEF coded XJR. Three or four coats are sprayed over the repair, again overlaapping the primer edges by about 25mm. A spray dust edge will result. Leave to air dry or lightly assist with a small infrared lamp for 24hrs. Don`t rush this stage. Once the paint is hard, wet flat with P2000 W&D paper. Water and panel wipe wash again. Buff up with a soft cloth and G3. This should blend the new paint into the old and promote a high gloss finish. Panel wipe again and spray three coats of clear coat onto the repaired area and 25mm onto the old paint. Again let this paint air dry or assist with an infrared heater. When hard, wet flat with P2000 W&D paper, polish up with G3 to a mirror finish and apply a coat of your favorite wax polish. Job done with hopefully the repair being undetectable.

Give me an aluminum car any day in preference to a steel one! Its a lot less potential maintenance grief!

Mike K
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Re: XKR new purchase, help required please

Postby NickyVet » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:17 pm

Dear Ian, Mike and Mike K
Thank you all so much for your incredible advice, great technical knowledge and for taking the time to post replies during the holiday season.
I like the idea of an independent check on the XKR and can see that several organisations do them so I can sort that for next week. I now feel less worried than before so you have really helped.Thank you everyone.
Also I have seen the XKR-S in the flesh but not driven her which is something I should organise. She's really beautiful from the outside, chrome in all the right places (unlike the XKR I saw) but the interior doesn't work as well for me.
Whilst I would have to hand any bodywork work repairs over to the professionals in Norfolk, your notes were really help Mike K, because I now know what a proper job should consist of and what a great finish can be achieved if time and expertise are put in.

Thank you everyone. Now all I have to do worry about is whether either car is capable over going over speed cushions seeing as my road has 7 of them!!

Happy New Year and kindest regards

Nicky


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