This is the story of PHU41R continued from: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=12285&p=66758#p66758
Here's the rear suspension just after removing:
and the front and back:
and the front
PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
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Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
The IRS was stripped easily enough and the frame sent for power coating. This is in good condition. Seen here with the one off my E-type, also powder coated at the same time.
I also decided to clean up the hubs and do the rear bearing, also at the same time as doing the E-type ones as I had borrowed the special tool off someone.
Here's one hub cleaned, the other still to do.
and the special tool in use....
I also decided to clean up the hubs and do the rear bearing, also at the same time as doing the E-type ones as I had borrowed the special tool off someone.
Here's one hub cleaned, the other still to do.
and the special tool in use....
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
...and the end float checked:
Next, was on to the front suspension. This is where the problems started:
Here's some of it in Airfix mode:
Next, was on to the front suspension. This is where the problems started:
Here's some of it in Airfix mode:
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
The first sub frame - the original one to the car - was too badly corroded to be able to use it and one of the fulcrum shaft was seized in.
This is the side that came out:
This is what it looks like now (you might just be able to see the end of the fulcrum shaft):
Sub frame No. 2 is behind it. Also, note the patch welded to the sub frame No. 1. This was presumably done a long time ago.
This is the best picture I have of sub frame No. 2 before disassembly:
This is the side that came out:
This is what it looks like now (you might just be able to see the end of the fulcrum shaft):
Sub frame No. 2 is behind it. Also, note the patch welded to the sub frame No. 1. This was presumably done a long time ago.
This is the best picture I have of sub frame No. 2 before disassembly:
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
Unfortunately I paid quite a lot of money for this subframe (complete with all suspension components and steering rack and also paid a hefty price to get it moved up to Scotland. It appeared in reasonable condition:
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
.....but once stripped, it was apparent that it had been badly repaired. The metal used for repair was coke can thin and there even appeared to body filler disguising the repair.
Here's the worst repair: and the same area with the repair metal removed: Once shot blasted, other holes and repairs became apparent too. So this was a no-go.
Here's the worst repair: and the same area with the repair metal removed: Once shot blasted, other holes and repairs became apparent too. So this was a no-go.
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
Here's that same area of damage with the bad metal reduced back:
Luckily, I got hold of a third sub frame from a fellow club member in Aberdeen. This one was originally off a XJ6 S1 2.8 and although there was surface rust from sitting around for a long time in his garage, it turned out to be pretty solid.
Here it is before blasting, next to sub frame No. 2: and here it is after Powder Coating:
Continued at: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12287
Luckily, I got hold of a third sub frame from a fellow club member in Aberdeen. This one was originally off a XJ6 S1 2.8 and although there was surface rust from sitting around for a long time in his garage, it turned out to be pretty solid.
Here it is before blasting, next to sub frame No. 2: and here it is after Powder Coating:
Continued at: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12287
Last edited by iRS on Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
Nice work, Roger.
Quite a struggle for you. Nice workshop facilities. Keep at it, Pal.
Mike
Quite a struggle for you. Nice workshop facilities. Keep at it, Pal.
Mike
X350 Co-ordinator
2004 XJR
2004 XJR
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
Well done Roger,
I love seeing pics of components before and after!
Paul
I love seeing pics of components before and after!
Paul
1995 XJS 4.0 Convertible
1980 XJ-S Pre-HE
Jaguar 4.2 Supercharged engine (but not with a Jaguar body..)
1980 XJ-S Pre-HE
Jaguar 4.2 Supercharged engine (but not with a Jaguar body..)
Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
Great stuff Roger - I feel another magazine article coming on!
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Re: PHU41R Restoration - part 6 - sub frame tribulations
David,
Thanks. And thanks too to Paul and Mike. I can either condense these latest posts into a magazine article or I thought I could do a post/article on all the places I've found significant corrosion on the car. I feel this could be useful to other XJ-S owners as so much of what I have found is concealed behind trim and shielding etc. What do you think?
Cheers
Roger
Thanks. And thanks too to Paul and Mike. I can either condense these latest posts into a magazine article or I thought I could do a post/article on all the places I've found significant corrosion on the car. I feel this could be useful to other XJ-S owners as so much of what I have found is concealed behind trim and shielding etc. What do you think?
Cheers
Roger
Roger S
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
Aberdeenshire
E-TYPE MODEL SECTION COORDINATOR
Early E
1976 XJ-S - original factory manual. Currently in many pieces.
X350 - 2005 Super V8
1962 MGB
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