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Hi XJS fans
I have a 1994 facelift XJS coupe, and I am having an issue finding replacement door seal parts BEC22268 and BEC22269, which are the end rubber seal parts on the door window seals, and these fit at the end of the window opening on the doors, however mine are both a bit shredded, so there is a 1cm to 2cm gap before you get to the long seal on the window opening.

I've tried SNG Barratt and just about everyone I can find on the Internet, but no joy, not available or discontinued, and even breakers don't seem to have these parts, so potentially I can't use the car in the wet without rain water getting inside the doors.

Does anyone know where I might source these seal parts, or have a work around?

Regards
Steve Jones

Hi Steve, I would suggest you speak to Dave Roche at DCR AutoParts, if you haven't already. Dave is well versed in locating and supplying parts like you describe. It may be that a solution would be to commission one of the extrusion moulding companies to produce a pattern length of the offending seal and offer it via Dave or the Forum to other XJS Owners. This was a success for the X-100 owners a couple of years back with the missing waist seals on the windows. If the latter does become an option, send me a PM and I will look up the name of the chap who sorted the X-100 seals.

Jim Mann

Hi Jim,
Many thanks for your input on this one, I'll give Dave Roche at DCR AutpParts a call and see if he can help.

Regarding getting these made, I call it a seal, but that is what the Jaguar parts list calls it, so you have the inner and outer seal for each window, which each run from the window cheater frame back to just before the end of the door, then there is the seal in question which screws on vertically with 4 screws and a chrome u-shaped plate, and this should meet the the internal and external window seal on the top of the door, however with both doors, as both mine have worn and split, there is a 1cm+ gap before the horizontal window seals, which obviously will let in water, so really to get these made, I would need a N/S and O/S decent one for a company to make these, plus I can't even find a decent photo of a good one.
It seems that the facelift XJS cars have a lot of parts that are not available, probably as the facelift model were only in producton for about 5 years.
I will update you after I have spoken to Dave Roche.
Steve Jones

I have same issue and purchased a 2nd hand set which are a little better but not much. You are correct some parts are becoming rare - rear lights is another example - if you can get them second hand they are a fortune!

Re the doors, I purchased a second hand set for spares to find the window cheaters (runners) are badly rusted - you cannot get these new either. It would be great if the club could encourage a manufacturer to remake all the components on the doors that are no longer available. It will only become worse as more of us need new door seals and come of the fittings as these are either rusting or falling apart.

Hi.
I think probably just about everyy facelift XJS has the same issue regardingb parts for facelift models, mine are slighty worse, as I have an eary AJ16 engined model.late 2004, and under the bonnet, in the works manual I have, it does not match the pages for the AJ6 enigine or the AJ16 engine, almost like they were using up bits from the AJ6 models on the AJ16 released cars, so that causes a lot of fun when trying to order parts.
I know what you mean about the window cheater assembly, I had both mine out recently, which were very rusty, and for now I have cleaned off the rust, and treated what is left with Hammerite KURUST, which does not pretty, but has just about saved them, and thing on the serious rust issue are both bumper beams, which the tin worm has got at big time.
Almost everything I try to get for my facelift XJS, is no longer available/discountinued
Regards Steve Jones

Hi Steve,

I understand your frustration at availability of certain parts for XJSs, although it doesn't just extend to facelift models. It's true for nearly all Jaguar models post E-Types, and will probably not improve until / if the cars become worth enough money as collectibles to justify aftermarket remanufacture of those parts.

I was interested in your comment that "...in the works manual I have, it does not match the pages for the AJ6 engine or the AJ16 engine, almost like they were using up bits from the AJ6 models on the AJ16 released cars..." Have you got any examples of that? IME, the late workshop manual is pretty accurate, and there is only one specific error on the Jaguar Parts website that I'm aware of (transmission filter). So, identifying part numbers shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Cheers

Paul

Hi Paul,
When you look at the manuals, the manual and on line photo and information regarding the AJ16 engine, the manuals only seem to think that the AJ16 applies for 1995 models, and the photos and manual have loads of different pipework, and fittings not on my AJ16 engined XJS, which I think is mainly related to exhaust gases recirculation, making it somewhat confusing to figure out. So far I have needed to order many engine parts for the car, but I can see it could be fun trying to establish the correct parts to order.
Regards Steve Jones

Steve,

As you've probably found out, much of the online material relating to XJSs comes from the US, unsurprisingly as so many cars were sold there. So you end up seeing and reading about US-spec emission engines. Also the US always refer to the year of cars by Model Year, whereas over here we usually refer to cars by the year they were made or the year they were registered. And to make it worse, there's sometimes a difference between US Model Year and the Model Year number that Jaguar used for the Rest of the World. As you also probably know the AJ16 engine was introduced in April 1994 which equals "1995 MY" in the US, but confusingly "1994.75 MY" in the UK. Hence the reference in a lot of online material to AJ16 cars being "1995 cars". I have an AJ16 1994.75 MY car built in July 1994, but first registered in 1995.

The same challenge applies to workshop manuals. The original Jaguar workshop manual is pretty good on the layout of a UK AJ16 car. But some of the US-centric material and aftermarket manuals may look different. When it comes to Part numbers and diagrams, you should be fine if you use the Jaguar Parts website and it's usually pretty clear on identifying the differences on part numbers for different country markets. I'd always start there as an initial step.

Cheers

Paul

Hi Paul,
Aha, that does explain a lot, so the manual is Americam, and checking some Jaguar dealer updates for the XJS 1995 update, showing a range of differences to my Novermber 1994 registered car, in the small print, itr come from Jaguar Inc, and printed in ther USA, so that clears a lot up. So many thanks for your input, very useful.
Regards Steve Jones