rear hub rebuild , not as easy as i hoped.........
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:21 pm
have been working with Phil on his '90 XJS again today ,
I spotted that his rear hub on the drivers side had an apparent collapsed bearing, and lower pivot bearings as well , when last working on it,
Phil got some parts online, and i picked up the rest from the Local H A Fox
Rear hub bearing set with seals, lower outer pivot pin , pivot pin nuts, pivot pin bearing set , bearing felt seals, and a castelated hub nut ,
for some reason the hub nut that held by the split pin just wouldn't undo , i got heat on it, and a two foot knuckle bar , but didn't want to force it until i had a replacement, so today with all the required bits we decided to tackle this daunting task ,
well, as it happened, the nut came undone with a fair amount of force, but without any bashing, it was done up so tight to eliminate the end float( not by me or Phil ) it was solid, but it still didn't stop the wobble on the wheel , a definite MOT fail
taking out the lower fulcrum pin we could see a lot of rusty mucky grease, the weather had got in and the bearings had failed, and actually created ruts in the bearing race in the hub body , totally knackered
a fairly easy strip down and a clean up saw the new races installed, new bearings along with the original shims , and the grease seals ( felt rings ) which were new installed after it was all greased up , wrapped some masking tape around the hub carrier to stop the bits fallen out,
then the main bearing seals were removed, and the races removed from the hub carrier , installed the new races and the seals ( went wrong a bit there as i should have fitted the inner bearing, but did that later ,when i spotted it lol )
then onto the hub its self, this is an ABS car, so the reluctor ring had to come off, simple operation with a puller and some washers to push against, then we had to remove the outer bearing which is a press fit over the stub
i know it was in vain , but i tried a puller, which as usual destroyed the old bearing cage, and left the race on the stub
so out with the disc cutter and a 1mm cutting blade, so careful cutting at 45 degs while holding it the vice and then a sharp tap with a chisel saw it moving , and when enough tapping had occurred i pulled it off with a puller so not to damage anything ,
new bearing was drifted onto the stub , and then the original reluctor ring was drifted on ,
then to the car , offered up the hub and drifted in the lower pivot pin, then moved the hub to install the drive shaft , and bugger, the grease nipple had stopped it rotating up , so removed it and offered it up again to stop this from happening,
put the nuts on loosely and went to install the drive shaft, and then the hub , put the hub nut on and,,,,,,,,,,,its loose, hmm , what have i forgot.....headscratching, idiot, inner bearing was still in the bag, lol
so , after removing everything, installing the bearing and putting it all back together again , fitted the hub nut and........its loose, hmm , what now, out come the manuals, more head scratching ( with oily hands )
finally came to the decision ,that the selectable shim against the inner oil seal was too big, the nut was bottoming out and thats what gave me the loose hub ,
luckily , the removal of the shim allowed a perfect fit for the hub and was able to set the end float with the main hub nut as usual
tightened everything up , attached the ABS sensor, put as much grease in as we could and the job was a good un,
in total about 6 hours work , so i'm happy with that for rolling around on the concrete , and the elimination of a dangerous hub
the old bearing was not an original , and was replaced a very long time ago , as there was evidence of it being cut from the hub as well , but the installer hadn't set the shim correctly , and opted for tightening the hub nut as much as he could to reduce the wobble, this with the natural wear exaggerated its self and consequently created a dangerous rear hub.....nuff said
BB
I spotted that his rear hub on the drivers side had an apparent collapsed bearing, and lower pivot bearings as well , when last working on it,
Phil got some parts online, and i picked up the rest from the Local H A Fox
Rear hub bearing set with seals, lower outer pivot pin , pivot pin nuts, pivot pin bearing set , bearing felt seals, and a castelated hub nut ,
for some reason the hub nut that held by the split pin just wouldn't undo , i got heat on it, and a two foot knuckle bar , but didn't want to force it until i had a replacement, so today with all the required bits we decided to tackle this daunting task ,
well, as it happened, the nut came undone with a fair amount of force, but without any bashing, it was done up so tight to eliminate the end float( not by me or Phil ) it was solid, but it still didn't stop the wobble on the wheel , a definite MOT fail
taking out the lower fulcrum pin we could see a lot of rusty mucky grease, the weather had got in and the bearings had failed, and actually created ruts in the bearing race in the hub body , totally knackered
a fairly easy strip down and a clean up saw the new races installed, new bearings along with the original shims , and the grease seals ( felt rings ) which were new installed after it was all greased up , wrapped some masking tape around the hub carrier to stop the bits fallen out,
then the main bearing seals were removed, and the races removed from the hub carrier , installed the new races and the seals ( went wrong a bit there as i should have fitted the inner bearing, but did that later ,when i spotted it lol )
then onto the hub its self, this is an ABS car, so the reluctor ring had to come off, simple operation with a puller and some washers to push against, then we had to remove the outer bearing which is a press fit over the stub
i know it was in vain , but i tried a puller, which as usual destroyed the old bearing cage, and left the race on the stub
so out with the disc cutter and a 1mm cutting blade, so careful cutting at 45 degs while holding it the vice and then a sharp tap with a chisel saw it moving , and when enough tapping had occurred i pulled it off with a puller so not to damage anything ,
new bearing was drifted onto the stub , and then the original reluctor ring was drifted on ,
then to the car , offered up the hub and drifted in the lower pivot pin, then moved the hub to install the drive shaft , and bugger, the grease nipple had stopped it rotating up , so removed it and offered it up again to stop this from happening,
put the nuts on loosely and went to install the drive shaft, and then the hub , put the hub nut on and,,,,,,,,,,,its loose, hmm , what have i forgot.....headscratching, idiot, inner bearing was still in the bag, lol
so , after removing everything, installing the bearing and putting it all back together again , fitted the hub nut and........its loose, hmm , what now, out come the manuals, more head scratching ( with oily hands )
finally came to the decision ,that the selectable shim against the inner oil seal was too big, the nut was bottoming out and thats what gave me the loose hub ,
luckily , the removal of the shim allowed a perfect fit for the hub and was able to set the end float with the main hub nut as usual
tightened everything up , attached the ABS sensor, put as much grease in as we could and the job was a good un,
in total about 6 hours work , so i'm happy with that for rolling around on the concrete , and the elimination of a dangerous hub
the old bearing was not an original , and was replaced a very long time ago , as there was evidence of it being cut from the hub as well , but the installer hadn't set the shim correctly , and opted for tightening the hub nut as much as he could to reduce the wobble, this with the natural wear exaggerated its self and consequently created a dangerous rear hub.....nuff said
BB