Audio Upgrade Project

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Audio Upgrade Project

Postby ptjs1 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:50 pm

Although I prefer to keep much of my XJS as original as is practical, I've been planning to do an upgrade of the audio equipment for some time. With Bluetooth music streaming now cost-effective and with the emergence of App-based technology plus the inevitable bluetooth phone capability, the price point has now made such an upgrade quite a cheap option.

After a lot of deliberation and with input from owners here and on other websites, I finally settled on an Alpine model, the CDE-185BT being my choice. It doesn't have DAB (but I didn't really want another aerial anyway) but it does have an enormous amount of functionality with the expected Smartphone interface and App-based capability.

As many of you will have installed audio equipment in XJSs, you'll know that the installation is fairly simple. I started by removing the aircon control panel knobs and the retaining nuts behind:
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I then removed the aircon panel with a bit of gentle persuasion! You can then see the four mounting screws for the old unit (face panel removed to prevent any damage)
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With the old unit out and unplugged, you can see the Jaguar-specific wiring plug. This is the only minor inconvenience. I found an adapter plug on ebay for the princely sum of £4.99. This converts the Jaguar-specific interface into a standard ISO interface plug.
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The old unit is a Jaguar-badged Alpine unit. Unfortunately the new unit doesn't have an interface for my existing 6-CD player. But as all my music is on my phone or streamed from my music library at home, this is not an inconvenience. The new unit does have a single CD slot anyway for the few occasions when I need CD capability.

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The old Alpine unit was fitted to the car with 2 side brackets. I don't know if this an industry standard fitment, but when I removed the typical slide cage from the new unit, you can see how the brackets were able to be perfectly swapped over to the new Alpine unit.
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You can see how the wiring adapter just plugs into the wiring loom of the new unit enabling it now to be fitted to the Jaguar wiring plug in the car
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With the unit quickly plugged into the car, it was nearly time to do a test.

The unit powered up immediately and was quickly tuned in to a radio station to check sound output. The unit has a 4x50w amp so I was keen to see if the existing speakers would function ok without distortion. Fortunately, it sounds great!

I then paired my phone (an HTC One M8 which is a great phone!) and checked the Bluetooth connection and music streaming capability

With the unit seeming to work fine, I then fitted it into the old mounting points
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The aircon panel was fitted back in place, the most difficult bit trying to ease the wiring plug back into its socket.
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I had already removed the instrument surrounds and drivers cheek panel and threaded the phone microphone wire through. I was going to route it up to the sunvisor, but decided that it worked much better and was less obtrusive if I mounted it on the side of the instrument cluster. Yes, I have fettled the trim back into place properly since!
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The whole thing took only a couple of hours to do, but most of that was taking pics and playing with the unit! I could do it in 30 minutes without interruption.

Overall, I am hugely impressed with the unit and have only scraped the surface of its functionality today. One of the reasons I liked this model was because it has fully variable RGB illumination so I can match it to the car's instrument lighting. Even things that I thought were gimmicky such as using an App on my phone to download, and transfer to the unit via Bluetooth, the equalizer settings of other users has actually been a great benefit!

The cost? Well the unit has an RRP of £349 but is readily available for about £200. With a lot of diligent searching, I found someone who was selling a 3-week old boxed unit on ebay that had been fitted then immediately removed from his car when he sold it. It came with a bona fide receipt for £199. I got it for £125! The only other cost was £4.99 adapter plug.

Will it help the car pass its MoT at 10am tomorrow? I doubt it but at least I'll enjoy the music on the way home!

Paul
1995 XJS 4.0 Convertible
1980 XJ-S Pre-HE
Jaguar 4.2 Supercharged engine (but not with a Jaguar body..)

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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby davidr » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:04 pm

Paul - glad to see that you took the plunge! Looks good.
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby ptjs1 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:22 pm

David,

Tks for that. I'm also very appreciative of your input which helped me make my mind up on the Alpine unit.

Paul
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby steve_m » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:13 am

I have a similar looking unit (can't remember the name of it) but it is a DAB set and has an internal aerial so no external add ons and I wanted something with minimal functions and no tiny buttons (fat fingers).
I'm curious on one aspect; I presume that the rotary knob on the left side of the unit controls the volume (amongst other variable settings).
Mine is in the same place but because I am fairly tall and have the seat right back I find that I have to lean forward and negotiate the gear stick to adjust the volume; this usually results in the seat belt locking and a momentary loss of composure and a total lack of recall as to why I wanted to adjust the volume in the first place.

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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby ptjs1 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:48 am

Steve,

Yes, that large multi-function knob does also control volume. You can get a remote control for the unit (although that does seem a bit of an overkill in a small car!) Also, I can control volume of streaming music through my phone, which is easier than reaching to the headunit volume knob.

Paul
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1980 XJ-S Pre-HE
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby steve_m » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:15 am

I think that my first car stereo had 4 buttons on it, one of which could pick up short wave radio: Sunday lunch time, BFPS, a truly global experience.
Or mostly from Cyprus as I recall.

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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby dhdove » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:00 am

Good luck with your MoT Paul!

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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby P.L » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:49 am

The headunit of my choice is a Becker Indianapolis Pro. Managed to source a reasonable priced used one in excellent condition which came with the microphone and GPS antenna.
Autoleads offers a harness adaptor called PC2-66-4 which only needed additional pins for the reverse signals and the speed signal.

While the Alpine units can be mounted with the original brackets, the Becker Indianapolis comes with a "universal bracket for DIN installation slots". Unfortunately our cars' stereo slot is much wider than a standard DIN slot.

I solved my mounting issue by manufacturing two brackets out of a 1,5mm 20x20mm PVC profile:
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The build-in slides engage nicely with the new brackets:
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In my opinion the new stereo suits the XJS quite well:
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby ptjs1 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:02 am

Peter,

Good job! The black surround of that Becker matches well with the colour of our aircon panel.

Paul
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby P.L » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:31 am

Hi all,
I am thinking about upgrading the speakers on my XJS.
From what I read in the wider community, the Alpine SPS-610 speakers should work well with my headunit. No need to add an amp.

I do fancy the SPS-610C speakers though as they come with a separate tweeter.
The question is: Where to mount the tweeters? The bezel covering the mirror mounts (metal triangle top front of the doors, BEC14874/BEC14875) seems ideal. Who installed tweeters there? How to do that (drilling, on top)? Pictures please! :D
Thanks a lot!

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Peter.
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Re: Audio Upgrade Project

Postby ptjs1 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:42 am

Peter,

Those plates are not covering the mirror mounts. The mirrors are mounted on the door skin itself. That plate is jusr a bezel over the top cheater plate. I would doubt that you could mount a tweeter there. Unless you're prepared to start cutting out trim somewhere, i would just stick with 4 speakers. As I've detailed in my thread here, i found my new headunit worked quite acceptably with my existing alpine speakers.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Paul
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1980 XJ-S Pre-HE
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