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XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:32 pm
by Brakebuster
though some ( most ) may say that Jaguar never fitted a sunroof to the XJS in the factory , i have one, and to add to the debate i have a copy of the original assembly line build sheet from the factory outlining a sunroof fitting, amongst other options ,

so , onto the point in hand,

it was never clear what manufacturer provided sunroofs to Jaguar at this time, and for the XJS ,

well ,

while dismantling the car for her repaint starting Monday next week , i found one, just the one brand name on my sunroof kit , this was stamped into a metal trim for the aperture holding the roof lining material , at the front , it says

Webasto..... 8)

as none of the spares are available from Jaguar , even though the whole kit is listed in the parts manual , i will now be able to source spare parts if required , such as runner buffers etc, but at the moment , and being really lucky , its fully working with no broken parts at all

i do need to recover the inner sliding shade , but that is an easy job

btw , its a fully electric , smoked GLASS tilt and sliding sunroof with inner sunshade and polished stainless aperture trim on the roof, and from looking at the webasto site, its a fully loaded version for that year..

with regard to redoing the roof lining , the standard biscuit replacement will not fit in my car because of the sunroof cassette and the front electric motor , this is housed in a bespoke metal frame that the courtesy light also sits in , so its a glue in loose material roof lining , which will be done while the glass is still out ,

BB :wink:

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:01 am
by BigCatXJS
Interesting stuff - I've never seen a coupe with a sunroof before. Do you have any pics?

Cheers, Rich

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:34 am
by Brakebuster
here is a picture before restoration began , in fact the actual day i bought her
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there is no biscuit base to that headlining, its simply stretched and glued material ,you can just see the sunroof motor cover top right of the picture

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:39 am
by Brakebuster
and can just about see the sunroof in this one,Image

i will see if i can find a better picture

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:46 am
by BigCatXJS
Thanks.

There doesn't appear to be an emergency crank bolt to close the roof in the event of motor failure - or is it cleverly disguised? Also, where is the open\tilt\close button?

Sorry, so many questions - just curious...

Cheers, Rich

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:05 am
by Brakebuster
lol, no worries


yes , there is an emergency crank , its under the motor cover trim , and the crank tool is actually in the tool kit , and is supplied as an original part , which i still have , which is a surprise , lol , the motor cover trim is easily removed with a half turn with a coin etc ,

the tilt slide button is on the ski-slope in between the window buttons, i have a ' 3 gang ' switch bezel , instead of a ' 2 gang ' one just for windows , and i use a ' roof ' labelled rocker switch which matches the window switches

if you have a Jaguar parts manual ( the green one ) all the sunroof parts are on the last pages of that book , or on the heritage parts site ( same info )

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:40 am
by JaguarMike
Tis is true, the factory did offer a sunroof in the Coupe XJS.

I recall including the details into the Type Approval documents so I'll have to dig them out and have a look at what I have on file in the office sometime.

Good to see at least one survive as they are no doubt rare.

Regards,

Mike

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:27 am
by Brakebuster
Mike

great info

i dont suppose there is any way of knowing how many were fitted like mine ?

as i know there is no way of telling how many are left , as you say

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:07 pm
by kelsham
Is the car painted yet? When I called to collect the downpipe you said it was about to be done. I loved the interior colour.

Regards Kels.

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:17 pm
by Brakebuster
Kels,

the XJS is going to the body shop on Monday , and should be there for three to four weeks , for a full and proper repaint

will put some pics up when she is done


and i think the interior was the main thing that stopped me buying another one in better condition , though it didnt make financial sense , but i will have an original spec car with matching production numbers when all is finished

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:24 pm
by davidr
My 1989 v12 coupe has an electric glass tilt/slide sunroof. I'm not sure if it's original or not but it looks like it. Sounds like its pretty rare!

Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:06 pm
by Brakebuster
davidr

great news, the way to tell is if the front material retaining bar that you can see with the roof slid back should say 'WEBASTO ' right on the edge in the middle ,

the other thing i have noticed after digging out the trim for recovering , is that i have a large cloth cover rear window trim , its the same shape as the upper ' D ' and as big as the whole window surround, funny thing is i dont remember removing it , but it defiantly fits round the window , and its purpose is to hold up/in the loose roof lining material as there is no card ,

so if you could look to see if you have that same trim , that would be great


quick update, my XJS is being painted today after ten days of prep , i picked up the freshly painted bodykit on Thursday evening, as i'm going to fit that, but the bodyshop will do the doors , bonnet and boot ,

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Re: XJS factory fitted sunroof , mystery solved..........

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:59 am
by davidr
I've looked at my sunroof and it was made by Hollandia so maybe it was not factory fitted?I have a couple of photos on my iPhone but I don't know how to put them into this post - if anyone can tell me how then I'll give it a go!