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why do it?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:05 pm
by masterb
Just thinking, why do it?
Why do what? you may ask/think?
Why go to great lengths to make your/a xjs go faster?

I mean at the end of the day if you want to go fast, go and buy another car. :shock:
Because lets admit it an xjs is not that quick.
And more to the point, I don't think most people but them for that, and i dont think they were designed for that in mind.
Ok you can make a xjs go faster.
But then again I could make my granny or a brick go faster if i tie a rocket to either or both.
An xj is a Gt grand tourer, its meant to be comfortable, cruise well at good speed and hopefully in style. with a reasonable mpg if lucky.
So is'nt it better to make your cat more comfy/stylish or fuel economical.
Ok I am sure this will cause some debate/controversy and/or ruffle some feathers maybe. But it's only a though and not even an opinion as i could quite easily go either way on this one. :twisted: :idea: :?:


Re: why do it?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:49 pm
by extratime1983

Because lets admit it an xjs is not that quick.
:?:

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I dunno, I took an Audi TT going up a very steep hill the other day in my 94 4-ltr..............not that I was trying to race you understand :wink: :evil:


why do it?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:57 am
by Philp1965
Well, the xjs might not be particularly fast, but I'm not looking to make mine go faster, really :lol: I've got a fireblade and a triumph daytona for that, and both will do 0-100 in about 6 seconds, topping out around 170+mph (but never in the UK, honestly officer).

I'd like to mod the XJS just to have a manual gearbox to play with. A three speed auto box just doesn't do it for me. Even the 6 speed auto in my XJR didn't do much for me, although it was a fantastic car in every respect by the way. Give me a clutch and gearbox any day. I like changing gear when I want to!


why do it?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:45 am
by kelsham
I personally would fit a manual gearbox, all I have read about such conversions is positive. It apparently transforms the car. In my case I have had a rebuilt auto box fitted less than 5000 miles ago so it does not make economical sense.
I variously toy with the idea of manual box or LPG conversion. Both appear to cost about the same. For those interested in LPG there is a good write up at www.go-lpg.co.uk/xj12's.html fortunately having both these major changes in mind distracts me from making a final decision. It will probably thus preserve my marriage


why do it?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:53 pm
by masterb
I take it they never made a 5.3 manual?
I don't recall seeing one.
I would never have an auto out of choice, in any make of car.
Although they can be nice to drive, I like playing with the box too much though.


why do it?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:59 am
by ptjs1
Jaguar made a few hundred manuals in the early years of production but dropped the model because nobody wanted them. Ironically, they are really quite sought-after now. It used the 4-speed box from the E-type. I drove one once and it felt really quite different to an auto - more urgent.

I love manual boxes, but I actually prefer my 4.0 convertible with the sports auto box. The only time I've missed a manual box was on a track day at Snetterton. XJSs aren't as quick as some supercars, but as a sports cruiser I think they do the job admirably. I too get my speed kicks from my bikes - I've got a Triumph Daytona (0-60 in 2.8sec) and a 70's Triumph Bonneville.

If money was unlimited (I wish!) I quite like the look of the 6-speed manual box conversion that's currently on the market. A 6.0 coupe would go well with that! But I don't think I could ever justifying the cost of converting a cheapish 80's XJS. I think I'd just buy a manual 3.6 XJS instead. It's probably as quick 0-60 as an auto 5.3.

Paul


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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:42 am
by Philp1965
Aaah! Jags and Triumphs... now that's a combination :D . All we need now is for someone to throw in a couple of Nortons for good measure and it'll make what the best of british was all about.

The more I drive my XJS the more I like it - it never fails to put a smile on my face, but I agree with Paul (btw is the Bonnie a T120 or a T140?) that the early 4 speed manual did have a greater sense of urgency than the automatics that came afterwards. An xjs with a three speed auto is perfect for cruising with grace and pace, but occasionally it is nice to up the pace with a bit of driver induced cog swapping

I think I've more or less made up my mind to do the manual conversion on mine, but now its a question of when and which 'box. It'll probably be the Tremec but as for 5- or 6-speed, I'll have to wait and see what I've got in the kitty after 4 new tyres and whatever routine maintenance is required when it goes up on the ramps this week...