Rear tracking control rods and joints. S-type, X350, XF
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:54 pm
Now twelve years old with nearly 90k miles covered, these units are now time expired on my 2002 V8 S-type. The outer gaiters are badly split on both outer sections of the adjustable rod where the joint engages with the rear wheel bearing hub carrier. A long bolt passes through the hub carrier, the joint bearing and the hub carrier again. A nut and washer locate the carrier and joint together.
On my car, these joints passed the MOT in December last year but eight months later are falling to bits. The only option was to change the outer rods on both sides but I have elected to replace the inner section at the same time as the joints on those sections are also likely to be at an advanced stage of disintegration. I`m replacing these parts due to advanced aging being found in the gaiters rather than because the joints themselves are worn. On ebay for £64 for the pair delivered for OE quality, these units appear to be the cheapest available. At the other end of the scale, I`ve seen individual units priced at £158 each plus post charges!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-S-Type ... 5d4cb2945b
I`ve spent some time looking at part numbers for S-type, X350 and XF models. As regards part numbers, XR825750 is listed for the S-type which directly cross referenced to the X350 unit C2C18419. C2D15992 and C2D15993 are mentioned as superceed part numbers. C2C13836 also makes an appearance for X350 models which I understand will also be applicable for S-types.....It all gets a bit clouded for XF models with the part numbers being more deeply buried and more difficulty being experienced finding XF unit part numbers on internet sales sites. As the XF ages, no doubt those aftermarket parts and numbers will become more prominent. I`ve not spent a huge amount of time looking at XF part numbers for these rods but will perhaps so do when time allows.
Essentially, these tie rods appear to be the same part for S-type and X350 but I cannot establish reliably that the part numbers listed above are suitable for the XF.
From another manufacturer Redline, I have also found two more part numbers. RC901831P and RC902571P. When buying to obtain best part prices, it is essential to check that what you are about to buy is correct for your model and year of car. Detailed research is well worth an hour or so of time if you can potentially buy a pair of OE spec units for £64 instead of £318!
One more aspect to this job. On a sole ebay listing, i found the sealed joint units also to be available at £18 each. It didn`t seem worth investigating this further as as previously stated, complete new tie rod components are available for just another £14 more and no fitting of bush hassles are involved. Bush re fitting on these units becomes something of a false economy and involves a disproportionate amount of extra work which also leaves worn parts within the rod units.
As regards fitment. I shall take a slab of ply wood and mount another small piece at 90 degrees to the main slab. A slot will be cut in the small piece to allow the thread of an old inner unit to be nutted and tightened into contact with the small upright. The joint at the outer end of the outer rod will be leveled and a drill inserted through the joint into the plywood. Thus a jig will have been constructed to record the length of an old tie rod. A new adjustable length part composed to new inner and outer sections of the rod will be adjusted and fitted to jig in order that the new parts will be exactly the same length as the old removed parts and re tracking of the car will be avoided.
Further details on this subject will be posted when I get around to fitting these parts to my car. The car will need to be jacked and securely blocked with wheels removed to allow me to crawl under the back end of the car and release the inner rod tie rods from the subframe. The outer joint displacement is rather easier and can be done on hands and knees and is no more difficult than removing a damper lower bolt.
I`ll be doing this work very soon. I have to do this quickly as I`m due to have to have two vertebrate surgically fused and will be unable to work on my car for quite a while. Presently nacked but not finished yet. I`ll be back!
Mike
On my car, these joints passed the MOT in December last year but eight months later are falling to bits. The only option was to change the outer rods on both sides but I have elected to replace the inner section at the same time as the joints on those sections are also likely to be at an advanced stage of disintegration. I`m replacing these parts due to advanced aging being found in the gaiters rather than because the joints themselves are worn. On ebay for £64 for the pair delivered for OE quality, these units appear to be the cheapest available. At the other end of the scale, I`ve seen individual units priced at £158 each plus post charges!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-S-Type ... 5d4cb2945b
I`ve spent some time looking at part numbers for S-type, X350 and XF models. As regards part numbers, XR825750 is listed for the S-type which directly cross referenced to the X350 unit C2C18419. C2D15992 and C2D15993 are mentioned as superceed part numbers. C2C13836 also makes an appearance for X350 models which I understand will also be applicable for S-types.....It all gets a bit clouded for XF models with the part numbers being more deeply buried and more difficulty being experienced finding XF unit part numbers on internet sales sites. As the XF ages, no doubt those aftermarket parts and numbers will become more prominent. I`ve not spent a huge amount of time looking at XF part numbers for these rods but will perhaps so do when time allows.
Essentially, these tie rods appear to be the same part for S-type and X350 but I cannot establish reliably that the part numbers listed above are suitable for the XF.
From another manufacturer Redline, I have also found two more part numbers. RC901831P and RC902571P. When buying to obtain best part prices, it is essential to check that what you are about to buy is correct for your model and year of car. Detailed research is well worth an hour or so of time if you can potentially buy a pair of OE spec units for £64 instead of £318!
One more aspect to this job. On a sole ebay listing, i found the sealed joint units also to be available at £18 each. It didn`t seem worth investigating this further as as previously stated, complete new tie rod components are available for just another £14 more and no fitting of bush hassles are involved. Bush re fitting on these units becomes something of a false economy and involves a disproportionate amount of extra work which also leaves worn parts within the rod units.
As regards fitment. I shall take a slab of ply wood and mount another small piece at 90 degrees to the main slab. A slot will be cut in the small piece to allow the thread of an old inner unit to be nutted and tightened into contact with the small upright. The joint at the outer end of the outer rod will be leveled and a drill inserted through the joint into the plywood. Thus a jig will have been constructed to record the length of an old tie rod. A new adjustable length part composed to new inner and outer sections of the rod will be adjusted and fitted to jig in order that the new parts will be exactly the same length as the old removed parts and re tracking of the car will be avoided.
Further details on this subject will be posted when I get around to fitting these parts to my car. The car will need to be jacked and securely blocked with wheels removed to allow me to crawl under the back end of the car and release the inner rod tie rods from the subframe. The outer joint displacement is rather easier and can be done on hands and knees and is no more difficult than removing a damper lower bolt.
I`ll be doing this work very soon. I have to do this quickly as I`m due to have to have two vertebrate surgically fused and will be unable to work on my car for quite a while. Presently nacked but not finished yet. I`ll be back!
Mike