Hello,
I want to make my 2005 2.2 xtype estate ride more smoothly. As it has got older I find the there is a lot of noise from the rear end when I go over bumps in the road, rather like a a flat bed trailer. I have removed everything from the boot area including the spare wheel. This does lessen the noise, but is not practical. Is there an area of the rear suspension that I can change to make the ride more soft. I understand with age things will not be as tight fitting in the boot and my this means things will be more likely to move and make a noise. The car is fitted with sports suspension from new. I have recently changed the 17" alloys to 16" this is a bit better but I need to stop sounding like I am towing a trailer. Also can brakes make a rattling sound when going over bumps. Any help and advice would be great and please if any of you use a good garage in the south wales area I would be keen to know of their experiences. Thank you.
Ride, comfort
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Re: Ride, comfort
I`m no X-type expert, but I do know that just like the Mondeo from which the X is derived, suffers a fair degree of suspension bush, linkage and associated component wear as the miles pile on.
Accurate diagnosis of the suspension is the starting point. These suspension components just like on any other car will need occasional attention and replacement or reconditioning as required. To begin the process, I`d suggest you take a look at this ebay link where some of the listings give quite a good insight into what is to be found within the X-type suspension.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... WQzv_Vt9Hw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... JIOz2Vj_OQ
Armed with that information, you can begin to evaluate what is likely to be worn. Bushings, anti-roll bar vertical links, and so on are the likely parts that will need attention. Remember that wear may be present in several components and that will probably be most economic to deal with all parts in one hit. Although the car may sound as if it is falling to bits, a lot of noise can be generated by just a few tired parts. Typically parts themselves are not usually that expensive but the labour can be!
I can`t personally recommend suitable garages in your area to you, but I would personaly be seeking out a local Jaguar Indipendent operator who will know these cars well. The X-type is as said, Mondeo based so is really not a complex car to work on. Most half decent garages will be able to tackle this work without too much difficulty. I see no reason why brakes would have much, if anything to do with what really does sound like a suspension wear issue.
Hope that helps.
Mike K
Accurate diagnosis of the suspension is the starting point. These suspension components just like on any other car will need occasional attention and replacement or reconditioning as required. To begin the process, I`d suggest you take a look at this ebay link where some of the listings give quite a good insight into what is to be found within the X-type suspension.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... WQzv_Vt9Hw
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... JIOz2Vj_OQ
Armed with that information, you can begin to evaluate what is likely to be worn. Bushings, anti-roll bar vertical links, and so on are the likely parts that will need attention. Remember that wear may be present in several components and that will probably be most economic to deal with all parts in one hit. Although the car may sound as if it is falling to bits, a lot of noise can be generated by just a few tired parts. Typically parts themselves are not usually that expensive but the labour can be!
I can`t personally recommend suitable garages in your area to you, but I would personaly be seeking out a local Jaguar Indipendent operator who will know these cars well. The X-type is as said, Mondeo based so is really not a complex car to work on. Most half decent garages will be able to tackle this work without too much difficulty. I see no reason why brakes would have much, if anything to do with what really does sound like a suspension wear issue.
Hope that helps.
Mike K
X350 Co-ordinator
2004 XJR
2004 XJR
Re: Ride, comfort
I agree with Ken.
Rattles and bumps from the back end are nearly always suspension wear related.
Mine was doing the same and it was caused by badly worn anti-roll bar bushes, a fairly straightforward job to do which fixed it straight away.
If you need a garage then the best bet is to look in the magazine or contact your local area/model coordinator.
Rattles and bumps from the back end are nearly always suspension wear related.
Mine was doing the same and it was caused by badly worn anti-roll bar bushes, a fairly straightforward job to do which fixed it straight away.
If you need a garage then the best bet is to look in the magazine or contact your local area/model coordinator.
Re: Ride, comfort
Thanks for all the advice.
I have since be told I need to replace my rear sub-frame as it has rotted away and this will cause my beloved xtype to fail its M.o.t. So unless I can find away to repair or rather replace the rear sub-frame economically, this will be the end of my Jaguar love affair!
I have since be told I need to replace my rear sub-frame as it has rotted away and this will cause my beloved xtype to fail its M.o.t. So unless I can find away to repair or rather replace the rear sub-frame economically, this will be the end of my Jaguar love affair!
Re: Ride, comfort
Welding of a subframe is an industry no-no.
No problem though because there are loads of good second hand ones around. As a starter, give Eurojag a call. Details are often in our magazine. They also have an online site. Their parts prices are good, the same with the quality and you can be assured quick delivery. Have the last six alpha numeric digits from your VIN plate or V5c to hand if you phone them. That will ensure you get the right part sent.
May I suggest that before doing a sub-frame change, you also remove the sill covers and ascertain the condition of the main car structure at that point. If the sills have gone and need major work, it would be a waste of time contemplating sub-frame exchange. It would be rather cheaper to go and find a similar car in better condition and use your car for spares.
Mike K
No problem though because there are loads of good second hand ones around. As a starter, give Eurojag a call. Details are often in our magazine. They also have an online site. Their parts prices are good, the same with the quality and you can be assured quick delivery. Have the last six alpha numeric digits from your VIN plate or V5c to hand if you phone them. That will ensure you get the right part sent.
May I suggest that before doing a sub-frame change, you also remove the sill covers and ascertain the condition of the main car structure at that point. If the sills have gone and need major work, it would be a waste of time contemplating sub-frame exchange. It would be rather cheaper to go and find a similar car in better condition and use your car for spares.
Mike K
X350 Co-ordinator
2004 XJR
2004 XJR
Re: Ride, comfort
I would like to thank you for your support, I took your advice and checked the sills. The are sound, with only surface rust. I phone Euro Jag and got a replacement rear subframe sent out that week. It took 5 hours to complete the job and cost £400 for the rear subframe and £225 to have it fitted. (Got a free car wash as well). She now is a pleasure to drive with no knocks , no more flat bed trailer experience, but now a far more smooth experience on today's very poor roads. So thanks again for giving me hope and direction. I love my Jag again!!
I have managed to fix several things very cheaply or at no cost at all, just from being a member of this truly enjoyable and excellent club.
I have managed to fix several things very cheaply or at no cost at all, just from being a member of this truly enjoyable and excellent club.
Re: Ride, comfort
Good job.
It's nice when a plan comes together in only a few posts.
It's nice when a plan comes together in only a few posts.
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