HI EVERYBODY IM A NEW MEMBER AND HERES MY STORY
MY JAGUAR X-TYPE 2.2D WAS RUNNING FINE BUT NOW AND AGAIN UNDER HARD ACCELARATION I WOULD GET A FLASHING GLOW PLUG LIGHT AND THE CAR WENT INTO LIMP MODE THE PROBLEM WOULD RESOLVE IMMEDIATELY IF I SWITCHED THE ENGINE OFF AND TURNED IT ON AGAIN, THIS DIDNT HAPPEN OFTEN BUT MAINLY OCCURED DURING OVERTAKING ON THE MOTORWAY
SO ONE DAY I DECIDED TO TAKE IT TO JAG DEALERS AND THEY CAME UP WITH A P2263 CODE (Turbo/ Super Charger Boost System Performance), THEY TOLD ME I NEEDED A NEW TURBO, SO I WENT AND BOUGHT A SECOND HAND ONE OFF EUROJAGS AND GOT A JAGUAR SPECIALIST TO INSTALL IT, BUT HOWEVER AFTER INSTALLATION OF THE TURBO THE CAR IS PERMANANTLY IN LIMP MODE AND THE FLASHING GLOW PLUG LIGHT COMES ON AS SOON AS YOU START THE ENGINE, THE GUY WHO FITTED THE TURBO DID A CODE READ AND THE SAME ERROR CODE WAS STILL THERE BUT ALSO A FEW OTHER CODES RELATING TO SPEED SENSORS AND A FEW OTHER THINGS WERE COMING UP. SO KNOW IM IN A DILEMMA IS IT REALLY THE TURBO THAT IS FAULTY OR IS THERE ANOTHER PROBLEM CAUSING P2263 CODE
I WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEBODY WILL SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS
p2263 code proble please help!!!!!!!!!!!
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Telsmoneypit
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I can't say that my reply will be of any help to you but I will share with you anyway....
My car is a 2.0 TDI which has of late, exhibited the same symptoms as your car i.e. glow plug warning light flashing after 'mild' acceleration but warning clears after switching off and restarting. This business started just after Christmas while travelling on the A1M. The vehicle stalled at traffic lights at end of the slip road off but restarted and ran as normal without further incident.
Recently the problem has resurfaced with increasing frequency until, despite having cleaned half a ton of sludge out of the EGR valve yesterday, on my way home from work today the light flashed and the engine stalled on four occasions on a twelve mile journey. The glow plug warning has now been joined by the 'engine fault light' and 'limp home ( which involves a lot of stalling) mode.
Since the problem began I have been trawling the net in a search for the definitive answer. Sadly I haven't found it. No one seems to know what causes this malfunction. I have read of people taking there cars for diagnostics only to be told that no fault had been recorded, EGR valves replaced, Turbos replaced (as yourself) with no cure, fuel injectors replaced, fuel pumps replaced (the list goes on), ALL with no apparent success.
I have also looked at Ford Mondeo forums and find that this problem is also common to Mondeo diesels and Ford cannot offer a solution either!!
Of course, the Jaguar handbook recommends taking the vehicle to a Jaguar dealer for diagnostic checks but as Ford charge £85 just to hook up to a laptop and tell the owner of the faulty vehicle that 'no faults were recorded' I dread to think what Jaguar would charge me for the same end result!
There seems to be a big problem with the Ford engined Diesel X-Types (and Mondeos) surely the JEC should be investigating this.
Perhaps John Spiller could ask David Marks if he has any ideas and either publish on here or the magazine any findings?
John, google x-type/mondeo diesel glow plug warning light. You'll be shocked by how many people are suffering. I was.
Best
Terry
My car is a 2.0 TDI which has of late, exhibited the same symptoms as your car i.e. glow plug warning light flashing after 'mild' acceleration but warning clears after switching off and restarting. This business started just after Christmas while travelling on the A1M. The vehicle stalled at traffic lights at end of the slip road off but restarted and ran as normal without further incident.
Recently the problem has resurfaced with increasing frequency until, despite having cleaned half a ton of sludge out of the EGR valve yesterday, on my way home from work today the light flashed and the engine stalled on four occasions on a twelve mile journey. The glow plug warning has now been joined by the 'engine fault light' and 'limp home ( which involves a lot of stalling) mode.
Since the problem began I have been trawling the net in a search for the definitive answer. Sadly I haven't found it. No one seems to know what causes this malfunction. I have read of people taking there cars for diagnostics only to be told that no fault had been recorded, EGR valves replaced, Turbos replaced (as yourself) with no cure, fuel injectors replaced, fuel pumps replaced (the list goes on), ALL with no apparent success.
I have also looked at Ford Mondeo forums and find that this problem is also common to Mondeo diesels and Ford cannot offer a solution either!!
Of course, the Jaguar handbook recommends taking the vehicle to a Jaguar dealer for diagnostic checks but as Ford charge £85 just to hook up to a laptop and tell the owner of the faulty vehicle that 'no faults were recorded' I dread to think what Jaguar would charge me for the same end result!
There seems to be a big problem with the Ford engined Diesel X-Types (and Mondeos) surely the JEC should be investigating this.
Perhaps John Spiller could ask David Marks if he has any ideas and either publish on here or the magazine any findings?
John, google x-type/mondeo diesel glow plug warning light. You'll be shocked by how many people are suffering. I was.
Best
Terry
OK, I`m an S-type man but....
Whenever I experience Jaguar electrical gremlins, the first thing I do is disconnect the battery for half an hour. This is an action akin to an Autologic or similar interogation machine clearing fault codes. During the period of disconnection, check battery terminal voltage. Anything less than around 12.8volts generally means the battery is on the way out. Jags do like at least 12volts to fire the electronic gear. Even with the altenator functioning correctly, a stable battery is the starting block for reliable electronic functioning.
Have the radio code to hand before you disconnect as the radio will need it`s security code re entered upon reconnection. The clock will need to be set up as well.
The perpose of the dis connection is to clear to blank, the accumulation of junk fault codes which somehow manage to clog up correct functioning of the electronic powertrain control module.
I have a pal with a 2.0TDCI Mondeo MY02. He had similar problems with glow plugs, turbo and egr valve. Eventually, the garage disconnected the battery for half an hour then reconnected. After that all was well.
My V8 S-type blew a gearbox last year. It was rebuilt but the transmission guys had extreme difficulty clearing down the fault code that appeared when the box blew up. I suggested a battery disconnection which worked! I had the car back that afternoon and the job has been 100% good ever since.
Strikes me, that the disconnection might be worth a try. Also try cleaning up multiplugs generaly. They seem to corrode after a time which can lead to resistance hot spots which spoil the easy path of "Eric the Electron". A clean up with switch cleaner is often benificial.
Mike Kennedy. S-type Co-ordinator.
Whenever I experience Jaguar electrical gremlins, the first thing I do is disconnect the battery for half an hour. This is an action akin to an Autologic or similar interogation machine clearing fault codes. During the period of disconnection, check battery terminal voltage. Anything less than around 12.8volts generally means the battery is on the way out. Jags do like at least 12volts to fire the electronic gear. Even with the altenator functioning correctly, a stable battery is the starting block for reliable electronic functioning.
Have the radio code to hand before you disconnect as the radio will need it`s security code re entered upon reconnection. The clock will need to be set up as well.
The perpose of the dis connection is to clear to blank, the accumulation of junk fault codes which somehow manage to clog up correct functioning of the electronic powertrain control module.
I have a pal with a 2.0TDCI Mondeo MY02. He had similar problems with glow plugs, turbo and egr valve. Eventually, the garage disconnected the battery for half an hour then reconnected. After that all was well.
My V8 S-type blew a gearbox last year. It was rebuilt but the transmission guys had extreme difficulty clearing down the fault code that appeared when the box blew up. I suggested a battery disconnection which worked! I had the car back that afternoon and the job has been 100% good ever since.
Strikes me, that the disconnection might be worth a try. Also try cleaning up multiplugs generaly. They seem to corrode after a time which can lead to resistance hot spots which spoil the easy path of "Eric the Electron". A clean up with switch cleaner is often benificial.
Mike Kennedy. S-type Co-ordinator.
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Telsmoneypit
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Telsmoneypit
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This is 1st class...
On the way to garage this morning, via Tesco to grab a few supplies, Engine management light beamed its shiny light into my face. Alright, take it easy and it should be ok, but first pick up supplies
Once beer and fags had been procured, reversed out of parking space...Oh joy! Engine malfunction light had cleared all by itself! Great. Took car to garage with humble apology for wasting their time. No light means nothing in diagnostics.
Sure enough, winking glow plug light reared its ugly head again after leaving garage....
I do have a life and it doesn't involve a malfunctioning Jaguar....
petrol + matches...insurance claim....
I am beginning to think that this is the biggest pile of s**t since the cortina Mk 2.....
I take it that no one else has a problem with the FORD ENGINED X-Type?
Annoyed Tel
On the way to garage this morning, via Tesco to grab a few supplies, Engine management light beamed its shiny light into my face. Alright, take it easy and it should be ok, but first pick up supplies
Once beer and fags had been procured, reversed out of parking space...Oh joy! Engine malfunction light had cleared all by itself! Great. Took car to garage with humble apology for wasting their time. No light means nothing in diagnostics.
Sure enough, winking glow plug light reared its ugly head again after leaving garage....
I do have a life and it doesn't involve a malfunctioning Jaguar....
petrol + matches...insurance claim....
I am beginning to think that this is the biggest pile of s**t since the cortina Mk 2.....
I take it that no one else has a problem with the FORD ENGINED X-Type?
Annoyed Tel
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Telsmoneypit
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Took Ex-Type to garage yesterday with instructions to change camshaft position sensor as this was the most common fault on the Puma 2.0 TDCi FORD engine, also cheapest fix....
Mechanic replaced the suspect sensor for a Ford part at my request (cost £17.50 + £22.50 Lab)
Now I'm not good at maths but that comes out at £40.00.
Just looked at Manners site for same part. JUST the sensor not labour..
Get this.....
£72.76
A ford part in a green Jaguar box....Do I detect the extraction of urine here?
Matches at the ready....
Tel
Mechanic replaced the suspect sensor for a Ford part at my request (cost £17.50 + £22.50 Lab)
Now I'm not good at maths but that comes out at £40.00.
Just looked at Manners site for same part. JUST the sensor not labour..
Get this.....
£72.76
A ford part in a green Jaguar box....Do I detect the extraction of urine here?
Matches at the ready....
Tel
There was a time,Tel, when Which magazine published a price comparison index for commonly used car parts.
They found out that an Escort flasher can was the same as one in a Porshe.
The Escort part cost around £5, whilst the Porshe unit cost £69! Same manufacturer. Mopar, as I recall.
It does pay to shop around. I have a tendancy to fit parts from non Jaguar sources, usually because I uprate from standard equipment if at all possible. My usual starting base is e-bay as a price reference point. I`m seldom disappointed. It is a good place to see the true market value of a product.
The other point is that Jaguar ownership does tend to lead you to increased consumption of booze and fags. Jaguar ownership has certainly changed my life and admit that I`m not the man I used to be.......financially impoverished, shot nerves, frequently in tears, usually spending my evenings on the internet searching for Jaguar parts, hints, tips, understanding and other misunderstood like minded people.
I also enjoyed saying to my less than approving Fiat driving Sister after a recent family funeral, "Where`s my Jaguar. I need it. I`m sure I left it here somewhere"!
That alone is worth the inflated prices we often have to pay to keep our cars on the road.
Mike Kennedy. S-type Co Ordinator.
They found out that an Escort flasher can was the same as one in a Porshe.
The Escort part cost around £5, whilst the Porshe unit cost £69! Same manufacturer. Mopar, as I recall.
It does pay to shop around. I have a tendancy to fit parts from non Jaguar sources, usually because I uprate from standard equipment if at all possible. My usual starting base is e-bay as a price reference point. I`m seldom disappointed. It is a good place to see the true market value of a product.
The other point is that Jaguar ownership does tend to lead you to increased consumption of booze and fags. Jaguar ownership has certainly changed my life and admit that I`m not the man I used to be.......financially impoverished, shot nerves, frequently in tears, usually spending my evenings on the internet searching for Jaguar parts, hints, tips, understanding and other misunderstood like minded people.
I also enjoyed saying to my less than approving Fiat driving Sister after a recent family funeral, "Where`s my Jaguar. I need it. I`m sure I left it here somewhere"!
That alone is worth the inflated prices we often have to pay to keep our cars on the road.
Mike Kennedy. S-type Co Ordinator.
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Telsmoneypit
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Well Mike, it turned out you were right. I got the car back on Friday and since then, no silly lights.
The mechanic who did the work on my car didn't believe the fault codes either and simply cleaned all the connections to the fuel pump.
He also changed my camshaft sensor for an uprated F*rd part and renewed the fuel filter.
Bill? £150. That'll do nicely
Tel
The mechanic who did the work on my car didn't believe the fault codes either and simply cleaned all the connections to the fuel pump.
He also changed my camshaft sensor for an uprated F*rd part and renewed the fuel filter.
Bill? £150. That'll do nicely
Tel
Dave Marks would say, "start with the basics first".
Multiplugs, connectors and battery voltage, influence the satisfactory running of a Jaguar seemingly almost more than any other reason. Corrosion at electrical junctions is half the battle.
If you think cars are bad, try the maintenance in a marine environment. Almost everything has to come apart every three or four years, otherwise failures just happen one after another! Electrical conductivity is everything. One splodge of corrosion and things go pear shaped due to resistance. It is a bit like blocking up a pipe with tissue and expecting the same volume of water to be able to go rocketing through. Can`t happen can it? The same principle for electrics. Effectively, force, pressure and area equation.
Granted sensors do break down. Although I`ve never had one fail on either a V6 or V8 S-type in five years, I accept nothing lasts for ever and that I will eventually loose one. Actually I have had one go recently. In fact not just a sensor but the complete sealed TAC module in the throttle body which controls the drive motor and throttle plate. Intermitant fault causing "fail safe mode". New throttle was £1200 plus vodka and tonic. I was lucky because I found one in perfect working order for £20 on e-bay!
The Mondeo/X-types diesels do seem to suffer from a weakness in the fuel injection/turbo department. My pal had a cam sensor go and had problems with the EGR valve. Am I wrong in thinking there may be a crank position sensor also, or is this covered by the cam sensor but using only half the number of signal pulses?
Then there are the dreaded fault codes which when revealed by an interogation unit, can lead to some very strange and often completely unrelated unit. Nigel sighted an example recently where the CD player malfunctioned but the fault lay with the electronic seat adjustment module!!
I suggest we all make a bee line for the Diagnostic Seminar in April before they admit us all to the Jaguar owners funny farm.
Try this link for a complete fault codes list for Jaguars. I remember the list goes to about 10 A4 pages so it might be best to download into your documents section and print off later should you need to.
http://www.engine-light-help.com/jaguar ... light.html
Mike. S-type Co-Ordinator
Multiplugs, connectors and battery voltage, influence the satisfactory running of a Jaguar seemingly almost more than any other reason. Corrosion at electrical junctions is half the battle.
If you think cars are bad, try the maintenance in a marine environment. Almost everything has to come apart every three or four years, otherwise failures just happen one after another! Electrical conductivity is everything. One splodge of corrosion and things go pear shaped due to resistance. It is a bit like blocking up a pipe with tissue and expecting the same volume of water to be able to go rocketing through. Can`t happen can it? The same principle for electrics. Effectively, force, pressure and area equation.
Granted sensors do break down. Although I`ve never had one fail on either a V6 or V8 S-type in five years, I accept nothing lasts for ever and that I will eventually loose one. Actually I have had one go recently. In fact not just a sensor but the complete sealed TAC module in the throttle body which controls the drive motor and throttle plate. Intermitant fault causing "fail safe mode". New throttle was £1200 plus vodka and tonic. I was lucky because I found one in perfect working order for £20 on e-bay!
The Mondeo/X-types diesels do seem to suffer from a weakness in the fuel injection/turbo department. My pal had a cam sensor go and had problems with the EGR valve. Am I wrong in thinking there may be a crank position sensor also, or is this covered by the cam sensor but using only half the number of signal pulses?
Then there are the dreaded fault codes which when revealed by an interogation unit, can lead to some very strange and often completely unrelated unit. Nigel sighted an example recently where the CD player malfunctioned but the fault lay with the electronic seat adjustment module!!
I suggest we all make a bee line for the Diagnostic Seminar in April before they admit us all to the Jaguar owners funny farm.
Try this link for a complete fault codes list for Jaguars. I remember the list goes to about 10 A4 pages so it might be best to download into your documents section and print off later should you need to.
http://www.engine-light-help.com/jaguar ... light.html
Mike. S-type Co-Ordinator
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Telsmoneypit
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Apparently there are TWO camshaft sensors AND a crankshaft sensor Mike.
All cheap as chips when compared to replacement of diesel pump etc..
Yep, Dave Marks is right: "start with the basics first" but what with all the electronics in cars nowadays where do I start?
The Diagnostics are fine BUT they can tell bloody lies...
My car went into limp mode because the ECU was told that the Fuel pump was f*cked.
If that was the case, why did it continue to run in limp mode?
Cheers for the info but I won't be attending the diagnostics seminar. Any computer (in a car or otherwise) is only as good as the input it receives
Garbage in = garbage out...
I wonder how many X-type owners have been hoodwinked into buying new Turbos and fuel pumps purely on the strength of a diagnostic report when the real problem was a dodgy connection?
C'est la vie...
Tel
All cheap as chips when compared to replacement of diesel pump etc..
Yep, Dave Marks is right: "start with the basics first" but what with all the electronics in cars nowadays where do I start?
The Diagnostics are fine BUT they can tell bloody lies...
My car went into limp mode because the ECU was told that the Fuel pump was f*cked.
If that was the case, why did it continue to run in limp mode?
Cheers for the info but I won't be attending the diagnostics seminar. Any computer (in a car or otherwise) is only as good as the input it receives
Garbage in = garbage out...
I wonder how many X-type owners have been hoodwinked into buying new Turbos and fuel pumps purely on the strength of a diagnostic report when the real problem was a dodgy connection?
C'est la vie...
Tel
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Telsmoneypit
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As an afterthought...
'Old Jags' such as my XJ-S were supplied with a 'tool kit' consisting of spanners screwdriver and pressure gauge...all of which could get you out of trouble.
Shouldn't Y2K Jags be supplied with a full diagnostics system instead of the old fashioned 'manual spanners method' as a tool kit?
'Old Jags' such as my XJ-S were supplied with a 'tool kit' consisting of spanners screwdriver and pressure gauge...all of which could get you out of trouble.
Shouldn't Y2K Jags be supplied with a full diagnostics system instead of the old fashioned 'manual spanners method' as a tool kit?
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