Different weather strips

[Doherto]

Hi all again, I am currently rebuilding a 1965 Daimler V8 having previously rebuilt a 1968 Mk2 240. I am at the stage where she is ready for painting and am now preparing EVERYTHING before she goes so that when she comes back I can progress with building rather than parts searching. The Daimler was an unfinished project I bought, from JEC Classifieds, and I thought I was missing the chrome window weather seals which were fitted to the 240. I have straight chrome strips that fit on the top of the doors and the doors have 7 holes along the top which would seam to mean that just a chrome strip is located there. I have bought replacement weather strips, like fitted to the 240, and can weld up the holes and fit them but I am struggling to understand what channels the rain water if the car is just fitted with door top chrome strips as I do not have any other type of external rubber strip. I have attached some pictures which show the different strips and the appropriate holes. Any clarification appreciated. Tony D

[mike020150]

At a glance, the Daimler V8 parts book appears to list door chrome beads (https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.co ... index.html). The parts listed there may help you solve the query. Mike.

[Doherto]

Mike, thank you for your reply and information. Combined with more research I have found out that the chrome beads BD17091-2-3-4 were fitted to earlier cars, although I do not know exactly when they changed, and the upgraded beading incorporating the window rubber seal, BD25962-3-4-5 were fitted to later models, hence why I had them on the 240. Assuming I can source replacement rubber seals I will weld up the holes and fit the upgraded fittings. However that still leaves the question ( for a friend who is also rebuilding an early Mk2 and has the same problem) of what happens to rain water on the earlier models with the chrome decorative strip. Was it just allowed to just run down inside the doors ? There is an inner window guide but is there nothing on the outside, if a second window guide should be fitted externally, there are no holes in my doors for them to mount. I have a solution now, hopefully, but still do not understand the earlier design. Any clarification once again appreciated. Tony D

[mike020150]

Unfortunately, my knowledge of the Mk 2 and its derivatives is not sufficiently detailed to provide a definitive answer. However, I know a man who will almost certainly be able to give you a measured response! It's Ken Jenkins. If you email your query to him (contact details in the magazine), I will lay odds he will know straightaway. Mike.

[Doherto]

Thanks again Mike. I know of Ken and have used his expertise and hire service before on the 240 but understanding his commitments have not bothered him with this at this stage. I have a solution but would just appreciate understanding what the original set up is /was for earlier models. I can only assume there is no glass external guide and water runs through the door. Hopefully some members with older cars can provide the answer. Tony D

[piman]

Tony,

the chrome strips are pure cosmetic, what is intended to minimise the rain water arethe felt strips which the glass runs against. As the doors have drains at the bottom and are lined with plastic sheet (To keep moisture away from the door cards), Jaguar clearly expected some water to get inside the doors.

Alec

[Doherto]

Alec, thank you for the clarification which can close this thread debate. It appears that jaguar came up with a better solution on the later models, which I hope to use, if I can source the new rubbers to fit the channels. Tony D

[alec2824]

My '63 Daimler had the brush type "seals" that allows plenty of rainwater into the door, which then passes out of the door via the drain holes. I modified mine by adding a separate rubber "up the window" seal to the outside. This entailed removing the window glass and drilling four holes into the door waist frame and then pop rivetting the rubbers in place. Alec G.

[Doherto]

Thank you Alex, A friend who is also rebuilding a 250 will have to employ the same sort of solution as his car is sprayed and therefore he cannot conceal the door top holes. I was thinking something like this, https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1259-w ... atherstrip from Woolies. They are not a source of seal for my fittings unfortunately but I may have found a supplier that can, who I have never heard of before. If I am successful I will add their details to this thread. Tony D

[alec2824]

That is very much like I used! Alec G.

[Doherto]

OK I found the trim for the later chrome strips. None of the usual suppliers had anything but I discovered this site which seams to have virtually everything. https://phoenixtrim.co.uk/ Now I just have to figure out how to get then inserted, I have done it before and remember it being several days of frustration to do four strips, and many many slits to the top of several fingers. Happy days. Tony D

[mike020150]

Enjoy yourself! Mike.