Sump removal with engine in place?

[peterheywood52573]

The Haynes manual says it is possible but the consensus seems to be that the engine should come out.
I have had the engine out of the car and put it back. The engine has since refused to turn. I decided to investigate with the engine in the car. I had to remove the sump and cylinder head, in order to remove the timing cover. I now want to remove the sump completely, to clean-out any debris in it.

I have been reading an older post viewtopic.php?f=112&t=10885&p=59531&hil ... val#p59531 . The member seems to have replaced the sump without completely removing it from between the subframe and the block. I want to make sure there is no debris in there and clean the flanges. For that I need to get the sump pan completely out.

I thought maybe, I could lift just the front of the engine by 6" or so and slip the sump out over the subframe. Would this work? Or would I then need to lower the gearbox as well as raise the engine?

Peter

[piman]

Hello Peter,

have you considered lowering the front suspension sub frame? I supect that would be easier than trying to lift the engine sufficiently?
I would first try that without disconnecting either the steering or the flexible brake lines, there may be sufficient flex to give you the clearance you require?

Alec

[peterheywood52573]

Thanks Alec,
I have considered lowering the subframe but that would be new territory for me. It might be more straightforward to take the engine and gearbox out........ again!
I was hoping that there might have been something behind the Haynes statement on what was possible with the engine in the car. Maybe those involved dropping the subframe.
Peter

[piman]

Hello Peter,

from that I take it you don't use the recommended engine removal procedure which involves removing the front sub frame?

Alec