Seat Belts

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Seat Belts

Postby paulg655 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:00 am

Anyone know of a company in the North East area that will fit/supply inertia seat belts to my 1967 Mk 2 Jag prefer a company that someone can recommend thanks

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby sgcronin » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:25 pm

Anyone know of a company in the North East area that will fit/supply inertia seat belts to my 1967 Mk 2 Jag prefer a company that someone can recommend thanks

Don't know of anybody in your area but www.quickfitsbs.com in London supply seat belts for classic cars they also do mail order
Simon

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Postby Martec » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:08 pm

Hi,

I used 'Quick fit' to supply front and rear inertia reel seat belts, they are made to order and will needed to know the type of buckle, type and colour of webbing, length etc.

The cost was no more that off the shelf items that may fit.

I'm very happy with mine.

Brian

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I have just used Seatbelt Service

Postby john_cunningham » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:04 pm

I used them to isntall inertia seat belts front and back and a middle lap belt. Very good quality of work, I had red seat belts installed, with black female connectors. They come to your house if within M25 for free and install. It took 5 hours in total, and they look amazing. My car is Carmen red, grey leather interior.

http://www.seatbeltservice.co.uk/galler ... c-cars.htm

Cheers, John.

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby Ronniebiggs » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:08 pm

Hi all,

As this year my son's girlfriend is accompanying us to Goodwood, I've obtained some 3 point inertia reel seatbelts for the back of my Mk2 (1966) to prevent the consequences of an accident becoming severe. Problem is there is no outboard mounting for the lap section of the belt. I understand the rears were, in period, diagonal only.

So...

Anyone fitted 3 point belts to the rear? Where did you fit the outboard strengthening plates? Any pics would be useful. I don't object to drilling holes but don't want to drill unnecessary ones.

The belts, supplied by Safety Belt Services, come complete with some threaded plates approximately 35mm x20mm which I may weld to some plate and use as a non-captive nut on the underside. Anyone taken this approach?

Out of interest, I tried Quickfit but all my emails and voicemails went unanswered...

Thanks to all in anticipation

Jay
Jaguar 3.4 Mk2. As original as I can keep it whilst still being safe!

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby Martec » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:07 pm

Hi Jay,

With similar safety ideas I fitted two 3 point and a lap belt to the rear seat.

The location points for 2 point belts was originally fitted, one in the wheel arch I think which can get cut out during rebuild and one near the centre of the seat. the third (over the shoulder) point needs to be made up.

In my case to make it neat I cut a slot in the parcel shelf to feed the belt up from the boot with a wood surround to protect the belt and the reel being bolted to a strengthened nut welded to the top of the wheel arch. Or you can fit strengthening to the under side of the parcel shelf and fit the reel ontop and bolt through the shelf.

In my case I needed extra long belts to reach the boot location.

The latter arrangement I used for our Marina, both arrangements have worked well for the last 10 years or so.

Brian
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Re: Seat Belts

Postby Ronniebiggs » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:15 pm

Brian,

Thanks for this. No sign of the outboard mounting on mine, I'll have a further hunt.

Inner ones are OK - blanked with a plastic screw but the threads are fine (no pun intended). The upper mounts are on the parcel shelf and tapped accordingly; fitting the bolts, however, will be a challenge as the rear window should, ideally, be removed to get the spanners in...

If you have, or can take, a pic of your outboard mounting point that would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Jay
Jaguar 3.4 Mk2. As original as I can keep it whilst still being safe!

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby silverfox » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:58 pm

expanding this a little , does anyone know the law on front and rear seat belts pls ? , ta Russ april 65 Stype .

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby Martec » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:36 pm

With luck I'll feel less shitty tomorrow so can take the spat and wheel off to photograph it.

As with most of my car it was rotten so was cut off and remade, the wheel arch is a bad place for corrosion.

It is interesting that you have upper anchoring points for 3 point seatbelts, 1961 only had lap belt points and the front were bolted to the floor I think, I had to re-engineer the base of the B/C post to fit inertia reels (the area was rotten anyway).

As far as what is required by law for seat belts, if it is fitted then it must be tested, but at what year it was mandatory to fit them I've no idea. Our MY 2000 S type almost failed its MOT because the rear door would not unlock and he couldn't test the seatbelt!

Brian
MY2000 3ltr S type manual standard car with leather seats, cruise control and mistral blue metallic paint.

1961 3.8 MkII manual, Indigo blue, nolonger runs on LPG, everything else uprated

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Re: Seat Belts

Postby Ronniebiggs » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:10 pm

Brian et al,

I've now fitted the belts. As you say, a few differences between your early and my late Mk2.

Top bolts were tricky, problem overcome by unwinding the belt, locking the spool and then bolting down using a UJ on the ratchet. A tight fit, but doable.

Outboard I drilled into the arch and bolted up using the supplied reinforcements. A generous coating of Waxoyl to stave off corrosion for a while finished the job. So no need to take yours to bits! Thanks for your help.

As to belt law, anchorages were legally required from 1965 and in 1968 the law required all post-'65 cars to be fitted with 3 point belts in the front. In 1983 it became compulsory to wear front belts (where fitted). Wearing rear belts became compulsory in 1991, likewise.

Bottom line is you need front belts in a post '65 car, and you must wear them. You don't need them in the back on a Mk2 but if they're fitted they must be suitable and operational and rear passengers must wear them. The good news is you can have 'period' chrome buckles etc. (pre '72 vehicles) which look so much more in keeping than the modern buckles on stalks.

I've tried to keep my Mk2 as standard as possible (but I'm not retentive about it) but fitting belts in the back is a wise move. A 75kg passenger travelling at 70mph has an awful lot of KE to transfer to the driver in the case of an accident...could ruin lots of people's days.

Cheers

Jay
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