Bluetooth phone install

[Brakebuster]

i hade decided to install a Nokia blue-tooth handsfree kit to my 1999 XJ8 , but first had to work out how to do it

i knew i had the basic wiring loom installed under the armrest , all cars from 1998 had this as far as i understand

the loom consists of a large white multiplug , this is the plug that the jaguar car kit uses to add the armrest telephone unit, but i didn't want one of those ( two numbers etc )

i obtained an adapter lead from 'Autoleads--model -- 06-106B ' these people make custom interconnects for all brands of car , the lead simply plugs into the Jaguar multiplug, this provides power via a nokia power lead, stereo sound to the front speakers for phone calls, mic connection to the courtesy light unit where a mic can be mounted , this is also pre-wired ,
and also a lead for an external aerial if required

once the lead was plugged in , i plugged in the Nokia blue-tooth unit, and then simply followed the installation instructions, five mins later i was up and running

the stereo shows ' PHONE ' when the calls come in/out and pauses CD's or radio stations for the duration of the call,

all in all a good system and a bit of an upgrade on the Jag system ,



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=003
this link shows the actual lead, and will fit cars from 98 onwards , no affiliation

BB

[blackflash]

Sounds great.

I have a Nokia 6300 bluetooth phone and currently use a tiny Nokia bluetooth headset when in the car (with the phone sitting snugly in the ashtray!) and I'd love to make this upgrade. What you did sounds very simple but I still have a few questions:

1) How easy is it to get to the underside of the armrest to see if I have the large white mutliplug?
2) What model is the bluetooth handsfree kit you refer to?
3) Where do you put your phone when in use and is it charging? (I'm loathe to screw holes for a phone holder and the vent ones don't exactly look good)

Many thanks,

Nigel

[joejag308]

Nigel i have a NOKIA 6233 and find i dont need any extra equipment.
I do however use it in line with my Tom Tom to make it hands free.
But if i just put it in the ashtray and put the loudspeaker facility on it is easy to use if anyone calls..........quite understandable recieving and they can hear me ok at the other end....Joe
(not that anyone calls much anyway).......i need to get a life!!!

[blackflash]

Thanks JoeJag - I'm ok too with my bluetooth headset as it's so light. My interest is
a) partly because of the convenenience of a properly installed set-up
b) partly because I always find myself intrigued by the long list of options available at initial purchase and which ones get taken up vs which ones I would have chosen, and
c) partly because I'm interested in how possible it is to keep a car current without spoiling the original look and feel, so thing like MP3 players, satnav, carphone, etc intrigue me.

MP3: I'm happy enough with CDs and radio most of the time but I use one of those iTrip thingies to transmit from my ipod to a radio frequency. Does the job good enough for how often I use it.
Satnav: miss this feature of my previous car but will probably go TomTom or similar

The only thing I really really wish the oroginal purchaser had specified was the upgraded sound system, but this is the subject of another post/thread.

All the best,

Nigel

[Brakebuster]

the armrest liner is a pop to take out, simply undo the screws by the hinge and at the front and carefully lift out,

the white multiplug will be easy to spot

the phone stays wherever i have left it, in a pocket, in my coat , in the boot, it doesn't matter , no its not charging, but it doesn't need to ( sony w850i)

the nokia blue-tooth kit is a standard item , and will work with most blue-tooth enabled phones , ensure yours is compatible before purchase , it comes with an activation ' button ' that you can place anywhere on the console with a sticky pad, its about the size of a 10p coin , this is used to answer calls ( if auto answer is disabled ) make calls by voice command, scroll functions and adjust volume, the cars speakers are used for the call , no suplimantary aerial is required

i discovered the nokia mic doesnt like the Jag wiring to the overhead console ( i think the jag mic is suppressed ) , so wired it direct round the windscreen trim back to the armrest , a little involved but not too bad to do


there are some aftermarket phone holder ' arms ' that clip under the side trim in the passenger foot well, they can be found on ebay , but cant vouch for how good they are

hope this helps

BB

[blackflash]

I removed my centre armrest inner today and the only white plug I can see is attached to the driver's side and has three wires going into it (one black and two yellow I think). This doesn't seem to be very large or very multi and it appears to be fully occupied anyway.

Am I right to assume that I therefore do not have the necessary pre-wiring so I should forget about using the car's internals as the basis of my hands-free solution?

PS. Brake Buster: what model was that Nokia handsfree kit just for refereence?

Nigel

[Brakebuster]

i installed a Nokia CK-7W in car blue-tooth kit, other brands are available, but do the same thing , i have married up Nokia , Sony and Motorolla phones to this kit, and have actually transferred it from my previous car ( a VX Signum ) with the aid of an adapter lead ( for the white plug )

with regard to the white plug, only cars built after 1998 will have the plug as standard, the first X308's up to 1998 would only have had it installed as an optional extra , one clue is that if your stereo and steering wheel has the telephone remote buttons, then it is pre-wired in the car

this said , i had to ' dig ' my plug out from under the heating duct where it was taped in place to stop it rattling,

from memory , it had about five or six wires in it and is ' open-ended' ( as in not used)

hope this helps

BB

ps, all the pictures of my car ( X308 and XJS ) can be seen here http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/galler ... 1&ppuser=9

my latest project is retro fitting a half wood steering wheel to the X308
you dont need to look at my ' other ' pictures if you dont want to , lol

[blackflash]

I'll do some more digging then! I do have the telephone button on my centre console and on my steering wheel.

Good pics, nice looking XJ8... that red XJS interior is seriously different!

All the best,

Nigel

[electricman]

hi,
i have a 98 xj8 with the phone buttons and have just got an iphone. if i wanted to get the phone going, how would i go about it and is it a gruesome job?

best wishes
alan...

[joejag308]

Alan I think the hard wired ones built in are of a certain make.....im just assuming this as people always ask which type of phone actually works within the cars......im sure someone will tell us.....but i use my phone in conjunction with my Tom Tom sat nav and the bluetooth connection i find this to be great as it makes everything hands free....it does make the installed buttons obsolete of course but its simple and can be used in any car if you have a bluetooth phone.......if this is not correct and a hard wired modern phone can to be permanently installed using the installed wiring and location it would be good to know....
However the system using the Tom Tom and the bluetooth phone is simple with no wiring involved.....Joe

[bmc123]

I also have a bluetooth phone and was also wondering if it can be connected in some way to the cars system? or would it just be cheaper for me to buy a bog standard bluetooth kit for the car

[bmc123]

I take it then that's a no? I suppose I'll just have to fit a bog standard bluetooth kit and forget about the inbuilt one.

[joejag308]

An article on this very topic was published in the July 2008 edition of Jaguar Enthusiast.It applies to a 2001 Model Year XJ8 when the wiring loom was updated to cater for Sat Nav.
Before then, to fit Sat Nav a new ICE loom had to be fitted,involving dismantling most of the car interior........not for the faint hearted!!
Phone wiring should exist but be sure to find out which type of phone the wiring is for.....Jaguar changed it from the portable Star-Tac to a brick type fixed handset for the 2001 Model Year. Good Luck !!

[TROY]

hi guys
i need help. i decided to fit a nokia ck7w handsfree car kit to my 2002 xj8se. this kit was chosen after reading brakebusters post. i acquired the lead from autoleads as sugested. i removed the arm rest and found the white 10 pin plug.this was already conected to a female plug. 1 side has aprox a dozen wires. the other end has aprox 4 wires. the aftermarket harness plugs into the conector which has 4 wires. ps. how do i get a live to the nokia unit. because there is no live feed from the original connector block. my car does have a phone fitted in the armrest but it never worked. i can only find 2 5amp fuses for the phone. they are both ok and are located in the boot area. are there anymore? if anyone can help it would be much appreciated. my no is 07958652921. ican call straight back so you dont get charged 4 the call.
regards troy.

[Brakebuster]

sounds like the reason the old phone didn't work was due to lack of power, i do know that the lead comes from the back of the stereo , with a few extra wires spliced in , so maybe you need to check its connected to the back of the stereo ,

remove the gearshift trim , and wooden surround, and the stereo will come out once the facia is gone, look at the back to see if the multi plugs are seated correctly ,

other than that you have an interruption in the power, try putting 12v directly onto the supply for the phone to check its function , this will confirm power issues if it fires up with the ignition on

btw, did you check the supply with the ignition on ??

as it will only work with the ignition in position ' 2 ' i.e. , the spring back position once the car is started

give that a go and post back here with the results

as the nokia adaptor lead should just plug in as per my original post , even though the wiring looms did change in 1999 to the last of the X308's

BB